Sure - thats most of it. As a business you definitely want to get on the "auto-payment’ credit card processing revenue stream (the god of recurring revenue) if you can.
But ultimately if you’re not providing ongoing value people will cancel… so there is an inventive to keep on innovating and trying to provide more value to justify the monthly fee. Whether its worth it or not is something only you can answer.
Beth, re the Oura ring: Nearly two years ago I bought a used gen 2 Oura ring on ebay (I had purchased the ring sizer kit so knew my size). No subscription. Still using it – works fine. Battery life is still 2-3 days.
Hi Ricky. It’s still not available for purchase, but if you are in the US, the prices will be $2,799 for Queen and $2,999 for King and Cali King.
They are not a US based company, so this means others with different bed sizes will not be forgotten. They discussed needing to make other mattress cover sizes that are most common in other countries.
They are just starting to beta test sleep tracking, so they will ultimately offer it for those who want that feature. They just turned it on for me and I’ll be sharing with them how it compares to oura.
They will let me know as soon as it’s officially for sale so I can give my friends/community a heads up so you can snag one while they still have the 5 year warranty available (I think it’s for the first 100 customers)
Also of note $$$:
After my beta period is over, I think they are giving me a discount code (you know, because I’m such an influencer). I don’t know what it will be, but I’ll share it here.
And, as expected, I would get a small commission for each sale, however, I am not in this to make any money, and I’d like to help out all of you who help me so much, so if anyone here who is an active forum member uses it, I’m happy to send you my portion in order to make the ultimate discount greater for you. (Meaning, I’m happy to help anyone I know, but I’m not inclined to spend my time or take identity risk sending payments to random people who might just pop in here and found the code).
Beta testers:
They are open to some beta testers in other countries if they still haven’t met those quotas yet, so if you happen to be in the right country, I can make an introduction. They are full in the US, but in aprox 3 weeks, they said if I know a a couple other people that I think would be great testers (aka people I can vouch for and who are super opinionated like I am, which most of you are!), they might make room. If this interests you, PM me.
I was at a talk last night by a functional doctor doing an educational series …and looking for businesses… only 60k per year You’ll be pleased to know that because of all of you, she didn’t say anything I didn’t already know!!
She was telling us all about the ‘free’ watch she gives you if you join her practice. It’s new and called Buddi. It seems to do many thing an Apple Watch does plus more, including measuring your blood pressure.
I see great value in having your doc plugged into your wearable. I think this is only available to doctors.
60K?? That right there made my blood pressure go up. I could see having an AI plugged into my wearable. It could then tell me what labs to order and give advice.
Doctors don’t want to optimize health. They’re great to have around when you’re about to die but people need somebody trained in nutrition and sun and exercise and they usually aren’t.
I pay $1500/year for my concierge doc. Get 3 visits with basic labs and one yearly with a stress test and massive labs. This year since I’m on medicare we get Boston Heart which is a pretty good one.
I don’t think I’d pay $60k per year just to get a free watch and a concierge medical practice. I have searched for a local concierge practice in the area where I live, but none of the practices, which are few, are accepting new patients.
I agree, having the dynamic feed from our wearables available to our physicians is something that should exist. Hopefully, in the next few years it will become reality.
In the meantime, I rely on apps like Whoop—I have a Whoop MG band—and uploading my blood work to Whoop. I get regular bi-monthly blood panels. Whoop also picks up some information from other apps/wearables I use, including Apple Health/Apple Watch Ultra 3 and Garmin Connect/Garmin Forerunner 970 watch. The Whoop AI analyzes the data and makes recommendations. Some of which I follow. Others I ignore. It’s a beginning but I would like a qualified physician on the team as well.
I live in hope that the state of medicine and technology advances fast enough for my needs.
I wouldn’t pay 60k for anyone, but I will say she does offer a great service… monthly meetings in your own home etc
Having the watch hooked up to AI is a great idea!
I didn’t realize Whoop could consolidate info from various sources… It’s great to see things going in the right direction.
I have enjoyed uploading my past labs to Good Labs in order to have more comprehensive ‘care’ from their AI. There is room for improvement and incorporating info from other wearables would be a great step.
I’m excited that bp wearables are going to be accessible any day now.
Can’t wait for this to go on sale in the US! A wearable blood pressure band for continuous monitoring is something I have wanted since I got deeply into wearable tech.
On the topic of monitoring BP (but not cuffless), @DrFraser has been “hyping” the ‘Conneqt Pulse Device for Monitoring Vascular Health’. Should I, as an interested ‘civilian’ , purchase one? What do people think?
It seems very interesting… almost like a Pulse Wave Velocity measure, but not quite…
Market Analysis: CONNEQT Pulse Availability
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Verified Pricing and Primary Source
At present, there is only one verified commercial source for acquiring the device.
Includes 30 days of Care+ access. FDA-cleared. Requires completion of a physician intake form during checkout.
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Total Cost of Ownership (TCO) Considerations
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Care+ Subscription: Following the 30-day trial, ongoing monthly reports and unlimited on-demand assessments necessitate a subscription priced at $24.99/month or $199.00/year via the CONNEQT App.
A La Carte Assessments: A 10-pack of On-Demand Assessments is available for $99.00 for users who opt out of the subscription model.
Hardware Accessories: Replacement cuffs are priced at $20.00, and protective cases at $30.00 via the CONNEQT Accessories Shop.
It works by de-embedding the pressure pulse from its reflections. That’s a real effect. I’ve designed ultrasound systems doing exactly that so I can attest that it works.
Here is my feedback after 6 weeks of use.
I use it every morning before my coffee as caffeine will impact the results.
The way I use it: I make a bunch of measurements until they get stable.
For instance a few min after I sit down it can be at 110 then 104 then the following measurements oscillate around 102. I do at least 5 measurements in the stable period and throw away the highest and lowest ones to remove outliers.
Here is the monthly report. The first report is free then you have to take a subscription but it’s totally useless as the report just averages the measures that are already in the app.
This sounds like ‘buy the device, get the first free report, but after that, forget the report and just look at what the device outputs’, or are you saying something more nuanced?
That’s exactly that. There is nothing in the report that is not in the app. You just get the monthly average for the values but looking at the values is more informative than the average anyway.