Statin usage and Desmosterol

It probably varies by insurance company… but here are some guidelines from a medical education provider: PCSK9 Inhibitors - StatPearls - NCBI Bookshelf

The American College of Cardiology, American Heart Association, and the National Lipid Association 2018 published guidelines on the use of PCSK9 inhibitors in adults

PCSK9 inhibitors are recommended for the following groups:[15]

  • In patients with cardiovascular disease at very high risk whose LDL-C level remains ≥70 mg/dL (≥1.8 mmol/L) on a maximally tolerated statin and ezetimibe therapy, adding a PCSK9 inhibitor is reasonable.

  • In patients with severe primary hypercholesterolemia (LDL-C level ≥190 mg/dL [≥4.9 mmol/L]), without calculating 10-year ASCVD risk, if the LDL-C level on statin plus ezetimibe remains ≥100 mg/dL (≥2.6 mmol/L) and the patient has multiple factors that increase subsequent risk of ASCVD events, a PCSK9 inhibitor may be considered.

  • In patients 30 to 75 years of age with heterozygous FH and an LDL-C level of 100 mg/dL or higher (≥2.6 mmol/L) while taking maximally tolerated statin and ezetimibe therapy, the addition of a PCSK9 inhibitor may be a considered.

  • In patients 40 to 75 years of age with a baseline LDL-C level of 220 mg/dL or higher (≥5.7 mmol/L) who achieve an on-treatment LDL-C level of 130 mg/dL or higher (≥3.4 mmol/L) while receiving maximally tolerated statin and ezetimibe therapy, the addition of a PCSK9 inhibitor may be considered.

Also - this was interesting:

Despite approved labeling and support by consensus statements, nearly all public and private insurers placed requirements of PA for PCSK9i in response to the initial price tag of $14 000 per year. Subsequent lukewarm support from cost-effectiveness analyses further consolidated payers’ position.

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCOUTCOMES.119.005910

PCSK9 inhibitors are specifically approved for patients with familial hypercholesterolemia, or those with atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease who are unable to achieve satisfactory lipid levels through dietary measures and statin use.

Yet insurance coverage rates were low, even when patients met labeled indications. When the researchers examined the factors associated with insurance coverage, the most important factor was the type of insurance: Commercial third-party insurers approved the drugs about 24% of the time, while Medicare approved them nearly 61% of the time (P less than .01).

Older age, prescriptions by a cardiologist or other specialist, and a diagnosis of clinical atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease (ASCVD) were also associated with higher rates of coverage by insurers (Circulation. 2017 Oct 30. doi: 10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.117.028430).

The researchers analyzed data from 9,357 patients with a prescription for a PCSK9 inhibitor. About 60% of the patients had a diagnosis of clinical ASCVD. In all, 4,397 patients (47%) had their prescriptions for PCSK9 inhibitor therapy covered, and 53% of coverage requests were rejected. Nearly 65% of patients who received approval went on to fill their prescription.

There was no association between LDL-C level and the likelihood of approval. In the 32 cases in which the LDL-C levels were 330 mg/dL or greater, 59% of patients were not approved for coverage.

Noncommercial payers were more likely to approve the medication (odds ratio, 12.32; 95% confidence interval, 7.09-21.39), as was Medicare (OR, 5.37; 95% CI, 4.23-6.80).

A recent cost-effectiveness analysis of evolocumab added to standard therapy showed that an annual cost of $9,669 would achieve an incremental cost-effectiveness ratio of $150,000 per quality-adjusted life year gained among patients with LDL levels 70 mg/dL or greater. (JAMA Cardiol. 2017;2[10]:1069-78). Evolocumab is currently listed at $14,523, putting it above that value.

“Now that clinical trial outcome data demonstrating reductions in major cardiovascular events and formal cost-effectiveness studies have identified value-based prices for these medications, it would be hoped that progress can be made such that a greater proportion of eligible patients can be treated,” Gregg C. Fonarow, MD, professor of cardiovascular medicine and science director at the Ahmanson-UCLA Cardiomyopathy Center, Los Angeles, and the lead author of the cost-effectiveness study, said in an interview.

Both sets of findings cut to the heart of the debate over pricing of new medications. PCSK9 inhibitors have a clear benefit in lowering LDL and reducing risk of heart attack, but the drugs’ price tags may limit their availability.

First, the indiscriminate high rejection rates irrespective of baseline risk are disappointing. For example, it is hard to justify denying PCSK9i in every 2 out of 3 familial hypercholesterolemic patients with established ASCVD given their extremely high risk of subsequent cardiovascular events.

https://www.mdedge.com/cardiology/article/150500/cad-atherosclerosis/insurance-approvals-are-hard-get-new-pcsk9-inhibitors

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Just to make things more complicated.

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This suggests that we should get LDL as low as possible. Correct?

Yep, seems to…

There is compelling evidence that atherosclerosis occurs only when LDL particles enter the intimal space, which initiates the inflammatory cascade that is atherosclerosis. If there are no LDL particles in the intima, atherogenesis does not occur.[2] This requires keeping circulating LDL-cholesterol (LDL-C) levels low enough (the lower, the better), decreasing them early enough (the earlier, the better), and maintaining them throughout one’s lifetime (the longer, the better), which early detection and modern treatments can readily achieve in nearly every case.

Many facts suggest that a desirable, physiologic level of LDL cholesterol is far lower than previously assumed: …

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Another idea :-)…

Repatha 140mg/ml (two pens, one month supply) for about $200 in Istanbul.

or about 11,000 to 19,000 rupees per month (about $130 to $230 US) from India:

https://dir.indiamart.com/search.mp?ss=evolocumab&prdsrc=1&src=as-popular|kwd%3Devolocumab|pos%3D1|cat%3D-2|mcat%3D-2|kwd_len%3D10&res=RC2

Or about $540 to $590/month from GoodRX:

https://www.goodrx.com/repatha

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Anyone currently taking Repatha? Any negative side effects?

Some related threads:

Here: Is anyone here on or investigating PCSK9 inhibitors?

Here: How does one get a siRNA shot like inclisiran (for PCSK9 inhibitors) or patisiran?

Here: MK-0616: An Oral PCSK9 inhibitor for High Cholesterol

$200/month is much more affordable than $500. Is the price lower in India and Turkey just because Amgen chooses to sell it at that price there (lower purchasing power)?

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FWIW

The retail price to end users are controlled in some Countries.

Years back I recall a “new drug”{I do not recall the drug] was being touted at a cost around $10.000 per month{$120.000 per year] in the US.

This manufacturer of this new drug was looking to sell in the New Zealand or Australia market.

When they make an application to sell the Governments Approval Agency will tell the Company what the maximum price they could sell the new drug if approved. The Agency requires all the company cost to manufacturer and does not allow for advertising cost, to get to the point, the same “new drug” was approved and they could sell this “new drug” for a maximum of $10.000 per year{that is correct $10.000 per year] And yes they marketed/sold this new drug making a profit at $10.000 per year down under and $120.000 per year in the US.

The drug manufacturers are NOT your friend.

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Praluent is dosed at 300 mg one time a month.

However 150 mg one time a month reduces LDL cholesterol by 50%

Efficacy and Safety of Alirocumab 150 mg Every 4 Weeks in Patients With Hypercholesterolemia Not on Statin Therapy: The ODYSSEY CHOICE II Study

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/JAHA.116.003421

What is the cost of 1x 150 mg autoinjector of praluent?

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$500 dollars without insurance.

I’m pretty sure that’s two autoinjectors. No difference in price for dose.

On Amazon, price is $1075 for 6 autoinjectors or $179 for one (bought 6 at a time).

It costs in local pharmacy around 350 eur for two 150 mg pens. Was just getting another thing and asked. I am currently vacationing in Croatia.

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It’s not too expensive if 150 mg 1 time a month is enough. If they lower the prices more in the coming years.

I take Repatha. 70 mg twice a month. I split each 140mg inj dose in two using a sterile vial, both to stockpile in case insurance decides to balk-as I have seen w friends on this drug- and also bc my LDLC is 31 and ApoB is 42, good enough for now. Also on Zetia 10mg/night. 48M

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Hi, I read somewhere I think, that if you have issues with normal Statins (muscle pain) and the doctor has tried various options, if you then try a PCSK9 the drug maker would sometimes cover the extra cost?

I’m not sure - part of it is likely the fact that the populations in these countries have much lower earnings on average (GDP per capita): Naturally, few in these countries could afford these drugs at US prices.

GDP per capita: Countries by GDP: The Top 25 Economies in the World
USA: $69,287
Turkey: $9,586
India: $2,277

But, many national healthcare systems (other than the USA) are allowed to negotiate the prices with the Pharma companies, so they negotiate lower costs. These lower prices would may be what are reflected in the sales channels in these countries, though I have no special knowledge of the intersection of national regulations and sales channel pricing in these other countries.

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Where did you get $200 price quote in instanbul from? That is even cheaper than 19 000 rupees x 1 on indiamart (near half the price of the medicine in India).

What is the effect of 140 mg Repatha 1 x a month?

Unfortunately I think the price is about $200 per PEN everywhere, meaning it is $400/month from India at two pens a month.

That was posted in the Facebook rapamycin group forum.

I found this website on reddit to check for prices: https://www.ilacrehberi.com/
You can type in top right corner the medicine and press enter. Then choose the medicine in the list.
Use barcode number and put it here to see historical prices too: İlaç Fiyatları | 14 Ağustos 2023 tarihli İlaç Fiyat Listesi

Current price for 2 x 140 mg Repatha is 6,865.68TL or 253,29 $
Current price for 1 x 150 mg Praluent is 3,946.69 TL or 145,60 $

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