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I am working on my first order from RL Pharma. Jagdish is pretty responsive to my many email questions. after going to my bank and not getting a warm fuzzy that they know how to correctly do a wire to India, I am setting up a wise.com account. It seems that if you pay in INR the fees are less than if you pay in USD due to USD needing a SWIFT transfer. any feedback?

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I’m not sure how your bank and / Wise.com work, but in my case I also saw that for some reason paying in INR (Rupees) some of the transaction fees were lower than payment in US$. But then in my case (Wells Fargo) they made up for it in other ways, so there actually was not any difference between the two.

All I’m saying is do your research on Wise and your actual payment mechanism (Credit card, etc.) to see how it calculates out. It may not be the way you think it is.

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I recommend Wise. There is a bit of a learning curve but once you know how, it is easy.
Transfers via Wise are 1-3 days faster than an ACH transfer from my experience.
Just answer the Wise questions truthfully. I you are buying medicines, say so.

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wise themselves said that a “standard” (not swift) transaction has the lowest fees. swift is used to pay in USD. standard sends INR

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Wise is pretty easy. Make sure you add in the fee that’s charged or Jagdish will be shorted. Fee for my stuff was under $2. Just received an order, live in Scottsdale and took 12 days. Wise will convert to INR.

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yes, I was working on trying to figure out how to add that in on wise so he wouldn’t get shorted. They don’t make it easy to do so, at least as far as i can see. you put in how much you want to pay (say the cost is $230 for the order) but then they take fees from that amount which would leave him shorted…I’m still waiting for wise to verify/approve my identity. the 1st 2 attempts they rejected. ( on the 1st one I had part of the date covered by my finger due to holding it and the 2nd the ID date had expired)

what do you put on the “forms” on wise if they ask what it’s for? medicine?

Add the fees on the 230. Sometimes I round it out. Just make sure the total amount they’ll convert totals the 230. And yes put medicine.

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I am reading that some say yes, some say no to that. which makes it hard to decide what to put. the one’ s saying no; say that the request for money to be sent will be rejected…?

I read a lot of good things about him (and Anil) but I don’t see how they have any control over whether customs will inspect/seize the shipment or not. Is there a somewhat safe amount that customs feels is for personal use/ i.e. not more than 200/300/400 tablets etc and won’t seize? I’m getting ready to order my 1st rapacon (300 tabs) and am worried about it being seized and then losing that money I paid.

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I would suggest it’s better to order 100 than 300 this first time.

Likely everybody has anxiety about their first order. Get through the process successfully once, and the anxiety is hopefully a bit reduced. If something does go awry, at least you’re out much less $.

I don’t recall ever seeing ‘medicines’ as an option on Wise. I always specify something like ‘payment for good before receipt’.

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What does everyone think on Rapamune that has slightly expired in terms of its potency?

I purchased 2 boxes (100 tabs each) of Rapamune 1mg a year ago. I finished one box and started the second one, but the expiration date was October 2023. I just continued taking it passed the date because I’m not too worried about the Pfizer Rapamune. I think it still worked if it expired for a bit, yet, how would I know if I didn’t measure via the sirolimus blood sample?

If anyone has access to that bloodwork and tried measuring it after a dose of expired Rapamune, what were the results?

IMO, the “real” expiration of most medicines is quite longer than written besides for sterile solutions and compounded drugs which actually do expire at the date written.

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I have no concerns about recently expired sirolimus… but haven’t done any testing to validate efficacy.

Most of what is known about drug expiration dates comes from a study conducted by the Food and Drug Administration at the request of the military. With a large and expensive stockpile of drugs, the military faced tossing out and replacing its drugs every few years. What they found from the study is 90% of more than 100 drugs, both prescription and over-the-counter, were perfectly good to use even 15 years after the expiration date.

So, the expiration date doesn’t really indicate a point at which the medication is no longer effective or has become unsafe to use. Medical authorities state if expired medicine is safe to take, even those that expired years ago. A rare exception to this may be tetracycline, but the report on this is controversial among researchers. It’s true the effectiveness of a drug may decrease over time, but much of the original potency still remains even a decade after the expiration date. Excluding nitroglycerin, insulin, and liquid antibiotics, most medications are as long-lasting as the ones tested by the military. Placing a medication in a cool place, such as a refrigerator, will help a drug remain potent for many years.

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Just got my first order of Rapacan (Biocon) from India. It took 12 days to get here (Philadelphia, PA). I ordered 100 pills.
Super excited

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Who was your supplier, shipper and method of payment? Very helpful to know all these things. TIA

Sorry for not adding this info earlier.
I ordered 100 pills from Jagdish (RL Pharma) - they were suggested here on the forum as a reliable supplier.
Shipped with EMS - again as suggested here.
I paid via Wise. It was the cheapest option. I think I had to pay only 3$ on top. I checked also Revolut, but they wanted 25$ for the transfer.
Weird fact: those pills have a pretty prominent smell of indian essential oils. The pills were on the console next to the entrance, and the person who entered asked me if I used some kind of aromatherapy.

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Thats funny… probably stored close to some Indian essential oils in the guys bedroom. I’ve travelled in India, and while there are many very modern areas of India, much of the country looks just like this (below).

Its also funny about these resellers… These are tiny companies (some may be just individuals working at home). When you see these companies, just keep in mind that these are much more like buying off Craigslist.org than buying from Amazon, Walmart, etc. Its not a big deal as they are just middlemen, but if they don’t respond for a week, they may just be on vacation, or something.

If you go to the RL Pharma website: R L Pharma - Wholesale Trader of Anti-Cancer & Pharmaceutical Tablet from Nagpur

Click on the “location Button” under the name and it takes you to google maps, and an address of: Rachana Vishwa Apartment, Katol Rd, KT Nagar, Nagpur, Maharashtra 440013, India

Then, you click on a street view and see this:

and here is Niba Healthcare’s global headquarters… looks to be an apartment in Nagpur.

Welcome Healthcare

See here: Google Maps

Dewka Pharmacon:

Google Maps: Dewka Pharmacon address - Google Search

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Thanks a lot for this super interesting info.
I expected that this would be just a regular reseller and not an actual big company. And it’s absolutely fine by me.
(Btw the smell is almost gone, so yeah, it was probably just stored somewhere next to essential oil. And we (as in my household) assume that it’s a smell of neem)

I also email Biocon. I don’t know what I exactly expect, but I asked them if there is a way I can verify that the drug is legit.
But the packaging and everything looks fine

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Thanks very much for the helpful information. Did anyone use ACH or wire transfer via WiSE? TIA

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Holidays and Observances in India in 2024

Date Name Type
1 Jan Monday New Year’s Day Restricted Holiday
13 Jan Saturday Lohri Restricted Holiday
14 Jan Sunday Makar Sankranti Restricted Holiday
15 Jan Monday Pongal Restricted Holiday
17 Jan Wednesday Guru Govind Singh Jayanti Restricted Holiday
25 Jan Thursday Hazarat Ali’s Birthday Restricted Holiday
26 Jan Friday Republic Day Gazetted Holiday
10 Feb Saturday Lunar New Year Observance
14 Feb Wednesday Vasant Panchami Restricted Holiday
14 Feb Wednesday Valentine’s Day Observance
19 Feb Monday Shivaji Jayanti Restricted Holiday
24 Feb Saturday Guru Ravidas Jayanti Restricted Holiday
6 Mar Wednesday Maharishi Dayanand Saraswati Jayanti Restricted Holiday
8 Mar Friday Maha Shivaratri/Shivaratri Restricted Holiday
12 Mar Tuesday Ramadan Start (Tentative Date) Observance
20 Mar Wednesday March Equinox Season
24 Mar Sunday Holika Dahana Restricted Holiday
25 Mar Monday Holi Gazetted Holiday
25 Mar Monday Dolyatra Restricted Holiday
28 Mar Thursday Maundy Thursday Observance, Christian
29 Mar Friday Good Friday Gazetted Holiday
31 Mar Sunday Easter Day Restricted Holiday
5 Apr Friday Jamat Ul-Vida (Tentative Date) Restricted Holiday
9 Apr Tuesday Chaitra Sukhladi Restricted Holiday
9 Apr Tuesday Ugadi Restricted Holiday
9 Apr Tuesday Gudi Padwa Restricted Holiday
11 Apr Thursday Ramzan Id/Eid-ul-Fitar (Tentative Date) Gazetted Holiday
11 Apr Thursday Ramzan Id/Eid-ul-Fitar (Tentative Date) Muslim, Common local holiday
13 Apr Saturday Vaisakhi Restricted Holiday
14 Apr Sunday Mesadi / Vaisakhadi Restricted Holiday
14 Apr Sunday Ambedkar Jayanti Observance
17 Apr Wednesday Rama Navami Gazetted Holiday
21 Apr Sunday Mahavir Jayanti Gazetted Holiday
23 Apr Tuesday First day of Passover Observance
1 May Wednesday International Worker’s Day Observance
8 May Wednesday Birthday of Rabindranath Restricted Holiday
12 May Sunday Mothers’ Day Observance
23 May Thursday Buddha Purnima/Vesak Gazetted Holiday
16 Jun Sunday Fathers’ Day Observance
17 Jun Monday Bakrid/Eid ul-Adha (Tentative Date) Gazetted Holiday
21 Jun Friday June Solstice Season
7 Jul Sunday Rath Yatra Restricted Holiday
17 Jul Wednesday Muharram/Ashura (Tentative Date) Gazetted Holiday
21 Jul Sunday Guru Purnima Observance
4 Aug Sunday Friendship Day Observance
15 Aug Thursday Independence Day Gazetted Holiday
15 Aug Thursday Parsi New Year Restricted Holiday
19 Aug Monday Raksha Bandhan (Rakhi) Restricted Holiday
26 Aug Monday Janmashtami Gazetted Holiday
26 Aug Monday Janmashtami (Smarta) Observance
7 Sep Saturday Ganesh Chaturthi/Vinayaka Chaturthi Restricted Holiday
15 Sep Sunday Onam Restricted Holiday
16 Sep Monday Milad un-Nabi/Id-e-Milad (Tentative Date) Gazetted Holiday
22 Sep Sunday September Equinox Season
2 Oct Wednesday Mahatma Gandhi Jayanti Gazetted Holiday
3 Oct Thursday First Day of Sharad Navratri Observance, Hinduism
9 Oct Wednesday First Day of Durga Puja Festivities Observance, Hinduism
10 Oct Thursday Maha Saptami Restricted Holiday
11 Oct Friday Maha Navami Restricted Holiday
11 Oct Friday Maha Ashtami Restricted Holiday
12 Oct Saturday Dussehra Gazetted Holiday
17 Oct Thursday Maharishi Valmiki Jayanti Restricted Holiday
20 Oct Sunday Karaka Chaturthi (Karva Chauth) Restricted Holiday
31 Oct Thursday Halloween Observance
31 Oct Thursday Naraka Chaturdasi Restricted Holiday
31 Oct Thursday Diwali/Deepavali Gazetted Holiday
2 Nov Saturday Govardhan Puja Restricted Holiday
3 Nov Sunday Bhai Duj Restricted Holiday
7 Nov Thursday Chhat Puja (Pratihar Sashthi/Surya Sashthi) Restricted Holiday
15 Nov Friday Guru Nanak Jayanti Gazetted Holiday
24 Nov Sunday Guru Tegh Bahadur’s Martyrdom Day Restricted Holiday
21 Dec Saturday December Solstice Season
24 Dec Tuesday Christmas Eve Restricted Holiday
25 Dec Wednesday Christmas Gazetted Holiday
26 Dec Thursday First Day of Hanukkah Observance
31 Dec Tuesday New Year’s Eve Observance
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