They cannot detect differences in mortality because the trial was not designed to do so in the time frame.
Just like you won’t detect a difference by giving statins to a low risk group.
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But vaccinated did die due to covid. Less testing positive has no clinical significance at all, it proof nothing clinically, moreso when the one death due to covid pneumonia (ie true covid) was actually in the mrna-group
Okay, we’re done.
Tell me when you learn of the chain of events that lead to death or severe disease from covid. 
I think you need a lesson in clinical thinking and medical tests. A positive result with low a priori suspicion means the test i most likely false positive, a negative test with a high clinical suspicion means the test is most likely false negative.
I guess everyone knows (including yourself even though you won’t admit) the fact that all these so called studies and trials were proven to be false. Clearly the memory span of some people runs very short. I can post 100’s of links in here where government officials, doctors etc were touting the vaccine as something that will solve the problem and prevent catching Covid in 95% of people who took it. Then soon after it become obvious that is not the case, and there were millions of people that were vaccinated and still caught the virus (you have plenty in these forums that can attest to that) then it became, oh no it does not prevent from catching it, but it will prevent death from the virus. When many, many people vaxed started dying then they said, well yeah vaxed people will die but less than if they were not vaxed. Clearly by this point it was all smoke and mirrors.
Then came the BS of the century " Oh well it is the fault of un-vaxed that people are dying" hahaha so I didn’t get a vax, I didn’t even get covid, my government had to pay $ZERO of tax payers money on me and I’m 100% healthy, and it is somehow my fault that you did get vaxed, you also got covid, and you perhaps had to spend days in a hospital (at $1000’s of tax dollars cost).
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Remember this unironic gem? ( incidentally I had to use yandex.ru to find the article again, all the other search engine hid this result)
A woman’s fully vaccinated father died from COVID-19, with her saying she “can’t imagine how much more he would have suffered if he had not gotten the vaccine.”
Yvonne Rodriguez saw her ill father, Patricio Elizondo, for the last time at the hospital. She remembered him struggling to breathe on his own, Newsweek reported.
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Two vaccines that I received did not prevent my infection. Most of my friends and family were vaccinated. All of them, without exception, got infected. No other proof needed.
Current vaccines unfortunately do not prevent infection and spreading. I want to believe that they possibly prevent hospitalization and death in some people (not everybody).
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That is an anecdote, even if true, and the protection was 95% as I said earlier, and not 100%.
Let’s hope that it’s 95%! There’s definitely some protection. Another anecdote: my friend in Prague and her husband never got vaccinated. Both of them just had another Covid. The 5th one! Each time they are sick for a month or so before recovering.
You haven’t been reading what I have been saying this thread. See my first response to you and read carefully what I said.
I read it of course. And agree that vaccines get less effective with time. I’m pro- vaccines, not against. With Covid, though, it’s a long way to make them work better.
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There is no need to work on better vaccines for covid because the disease has become endemic over the past 3 years thanks to repeated vaccinations and infections.
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https://ijvtpr.com/index.php/IJVTPR/article/view/86/224
posted by arhu
“Delayed reporting of the subject deaths into the Case Report Form obscured the cardiac adverse event signal and allowed the Pfizer/BioNTech Emergency Use Authorization to proceed unchallenged. Delayed reporting of the subject deaths into the Case Report Form obscured the cardiac adverse event signal and allowed the Pfizer/BioNTech Emergency Use Authorization to proceed unchallenged.”
The entire medical establishment, from Fauci to hospital administrators to your local pharmacist, failed miserably. Most thinking people don’t need a study to know this.
The lawyers are just beginning…
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Excess mortality is lower in 2022-2023 than in 2020-2021. This goes especially for cardiovascular deaths which have actually been lower than expected in 2022-2023 as can be seen in the chart seen here The Problem of Excess Deaths - #10 by Virilius
Since correlation = causation (at least according to antivaxxers), doesn’t this practically prove that the Pfizer vaccine is actually beneficial for heart health?
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Excess mortality still is very high in the under 45s in “Europe” or rather the euromomo region (even if ignore the sudden big jump in excess mortality in the 15-44 which was caused by the hamas terror attacks)
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Except for the peaks, the values remain within normal range. We can see a small increase trend from early 2020 to early 2022 before it normalizes again with a sharp rise in late 2022 which quickly drops off again.
Topol said the coronavirus will keeping finding new ways to evade our immune response and become more transmissible to continue infecting us again and again. That’s why he’d like to see new vaccines protect us from what he calls the “relentless evolution of the virus.”
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We’re at a preliminary stage of figuring out what’s what here. Someone needs to collect the causes of deaths of these excess deaths and stratify them by age range to look for patterns. Also need to look at vaxxed (J&J vs Moderna / Pfizer vs 2 shots or booster etc.) vs unvaxxed status of the deceased and normalize them for their respective prevalence in each state or province (US & Canada) or other administrative unit in the other countries. It’s a lot of work and I don’t see any impetus for undertaking it. My own intuition is that the vaccine rollout is probably part of the engine but I don’t have any data for it and could be wrong. I think the lack of initiative by public health authorities to get to the bottom of the issue is partly what’s nudging my intuition in that direction. Of course the virus itself could have cracked many people’s health, I don’t rule it out. But I fear that if the vaccines WERE somehow implicated, given the coercive measures put in place to promote mass adoption, there would be such political backlash against the architects of said public health policies — who are by and large still in charge today — that there are massive disincentives to promote any investigative work that might end up pointing fingers at the vaccines. There’s an agency problem here, as they say in finance.
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If they (government, CIA, lizardmen, jews, aliens, globalists) wanted to cause a mass extermination of undesirables (so everyone who is not a paranoid right winger), why is excess mortality lower in 2022-2023 than in 2020-2021? Why isn’t there a mass extinction event happening right now? Somehow that logic totally doesn’t check out unless you believe the group pushing for the vaccine is a Disney tier villain.
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