I had success with Kachela Medex shipping to Canada - Ontario in July. Came through customs and India Post to Canada Post quite quickly. $150 USD for 300 1mg Siroboon Sirolimus.
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I also used Oddway and it it worked well.
I’ve bought good Rapa from Varun on IndiaMart when I was in Cambodia, confirmed by taking a blood test after ingestion.
However, I am back in Canada now and Varun told me that he has had problems with seizures shipping to Canada, and for Canadian shipments he will not re-send if it gets confiscated.
Has anyone tried Blue Crystal International?
They are in Nagpur, and on IndiaMart.
Their rating is 4.9/5 and they said they have had 100% clearance to Canada, and will resend if it gets confiscated.
10-12 days shipping.
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I had a package rejected by customs from them
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Sorry to hear that. What exactly happens when a package is rejected by customs in Canada - do they do like in the USA where they just send you a letter telling you its been held - like shown below? (from our “How people are importing rapamycin” writeup). In the USA I think they tend to let things through more if it appears to be less than 3 months worth of supply of the medication… but its highly variable. The person that had their shipment rejected below was bringing in 600 tablets, which is quite a few.
Also, I’m wondering if larger packages with more tablets are more likely to be held. How many tablets had you ordered in the package that was rejected by Canada customs? What did the shipper/reseller (was it Oddway?) say to you? Did they refund the money?
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I just found out that the Canada Boarder Services refused entry of 100 pcs of Rapacan from India and is being returned to sender. I wonder if it is worth while filling a complaint with the Agency and seek some explanations or just forget it as I might be black listed and not being successful in other tries? Any suggestions?
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I wouldn’t draw attention to yourself. You’ll never win against our government. Just try another supplier.
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Which supplier did you use? Oddway International?
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I’ve used oddway with success.
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I just had success with GP Pharma, buying Siroboon, 180 1mg tablets.
Flew through Canada Customs, Mississauga- Kitchener route, with no problems. Got it in 14 days. Impressive.
I’ve gotten Sirokem from them before, similar fast service, no interceptions, great price. Some side effects (loose stools) esp with GF juice, so pretty sure it’s rapamycin. Occasional canker sore, use Colgate Total for that, works great.
Other orders from other vendors have had problems, including one via Varun shipped to the US, which was returned from the pick up location for an unknown reason. Eventually it was re-shipped (twice) and it succeeded, but I had to pay shipping twice, and bring it across the border, so this method now is much better.
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Good to hear, thanks for the update. Do you tell your doctor in Canada that you are taking rapamycin (and why)?
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Yes. He was supportive, I supplied him with a bunch of papers on it, many from Blagosklonny, but his insurance wouldn’t let him prescribe it. He did replicate a bunch of other prescriptions from Dr Green. Great Doc.
Why? (a) So he could provide as much support and advice as possible.
(b) In the hope of getting a Canadian prescription
(c) To advance the cause of treating aging as a disease, and hopefully encourage some Canadian physicians to start prescribing it.
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Interesting… I wonder in general if Canadian doctors might be more receptive to rapamycin and related drugs for mitigating aging, just because of lower legal risk (people are not as litigious in Canada, and everyone has healthcare coverage for life, so there are also incentives for the system to support preventative medicine). Are you East coast Canada, or West (or center)?
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GTA, but I wouldn’t generalize and try to characterize Canadian medicine from my experience- my Doc is, in my experience, exceptional here. Problem is, the legal risk is what prevented him from prescribing it, so it’s definitely a factor here too. In fact, I don’t think prescribing drugs off-label is as common here as in the US, or even allowed, though that may be an insurance thing.
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Yes I agree. Technically, importing prescription medications by individuals is not allowed, though obviously it’s not always enforced, either in shipments or at the border. So just try another supplier. GP Pharma worked for me.
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Yes - the postal service can at best randomly open a few percent of packages to check, so some people just have bad luck. One thing to note… it might depend how the packages are identified on the customs forms. Some packages I get (in the US) are correctly identified as pharmaceuticals, but other packages from different Indian pharmacies are identified just as “health products” . It doesn’t seem to make much difference in terms of receiving them in the US, but might in Canada and Europe where they seem to be more strict. Perhaps discuss with Indian pharmacy you are ordering from, as part of the order.
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I think it has more to do with their licensing college. If there was a complaint he’d have to defend himself and he may believe it would be hard to justify prescribing rapamycin for off label use.
I think the break may come from the dental side. If sufficient human evidence can be shown rapamycin reverses perio disease then that will open the flood gates as to who can be prescribed this drug.
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One friend in Canada spoke to his doctor about rapamycin and the doctor (a GP) said that it was not something he could even prescribe, that because it was only approved for transplants in Canada (not sure if thats exactly true or not, but he could have been generalizing) that it could only prescribed by specialists. So, this could also be an issue.
Part of the other issue is that doctors generaly don’t like prescribing drugs to healthy people (which is what you are really doing with rapamycin)…
But yet - the ability to do “off-label” prescribing seems much more restricted in Canada. I’m not sure of the rules and regulations around it.
Some info I found…
Off-label prescribing is not prohibited in Canada. It occurs in every specialty of medicine, but it may be more common in areas of medicine in which the patient population is less likely to be included in clinical trials. For example, specific drugs have been used off-label for rare or difficult-to-study disorders or a cancer drug that has received approval for a specific type and stage of cancer may prove to be suitable for additional oncological purposes. Source: BEWARE: off-label prescription drug use | McGill University Health Centre
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The other issue is the pharmacists. From personal experience, there many who will overstep themselves and question the patient about the script and what it’s for. Even though they aren’t qualified to make those decisions, nor is it any of their business what the medical condition of the patient is, they can be a source of complaints against the physician. So there can be some potential trouble for the physician even though it’s supposed to be a private interaction between the physician and patient.
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