Who here has gotten/not gotten COVID?

The trial wasn’t long enough or large enough to catch all of the elderly people dying from covid in the placebo group.

Wrong because absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
If you put 2 and 2 together you can reasonably conclude a vaccine that prevents 95% of infections will decrease all cause mortality by a lot when mortality rate was 1%, 5% or even higher 10-15% from covid. Unless you can explain why the placebo group didn’t die from covid when hospitals were full and we had crazy scenes like this:

I explain it by the fact of demographics/time/size.

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Well, I never put any pharmaceutical in my body before researching it a bit. These vaccines are not vaccines, they are recycled gene therapy research… The idea of injecting myself with lipid nanoparticles charged with mrna just freaks out the little cellular biology I know. There was no way I would put that into my body without any long term study. I was also ready to trust my immune system with this one. I am glad I did given all we know now…

I would have been glad to use a regular vaccine if one had been available… I am not anti vaccine, just anti mrna/gene induced immunity.

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Serge, Just because someone started a thread on Covid (which could tangentially relate to taking rapamycin since there is some evidence that it at the very least could reduce poor outcomes) doesn’t mean that it gives you license to spread vaccine misinformation. Let’s stick to the topic.

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everything @Serge said about these “vaccines” is factually correct, incidentally it’s not just the mrna "vaccines that are rehashed gene therapy but the adenovector “vaccines” are too

Don’t believe me: pre-pandemic there was nothing controversial about that and both techniques were mentioned in the wiki article on gene therapy

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We took 3 shots ea in our family, and after I saw that it made you more likely to acquire COVID, I followed the FLCCC protocol for removing it from my system.

Nobody here ever had COVID.

I have not had a cold or flu for decades.

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@zazim I usually refrain from discussing those topics given the cognitive dissonance they provoque… I would argue that all interventions related to COVID are important factors in relation to longevity. As for sticking to the topic, that is exactly what I am doing…

You are right, pre-pandemic we had opened discussions on those interesting therapies, especially how they baffled researchers after multiple failed attempts at creating a bird flu vaccine for the poultry industry…

I do include adenovector therapies in my black list… But foremost I think that it would be interesting to figure out if Rapa could reduce or reverse some of the damage created by the vax… especially for those who were plagued with serious side effects.

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To prevent possible vax side effects, I did the following: 1. Got the 2nd Pfizer vax 3 months after the 1st.
2. Took Rapamycin for a few days, 1mg/day
3. Resveratrol+EVOO, Bromeliad +NAC, CoQ10, Melatonin, Aspirin. Didn’t have any side effects.

When I finally got Covid (last Dec), it was mild and lasted 6 days. Took 1mg Rapa every day in addition to the above supplements, plus Lactoferrin, during infection.

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Just because you can use mRNA for gene therapy doesn’t mean the mRNA vaccines alter a person’s genome nor that they are ‘gene therapy’… does this have to be said?

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Almost all the people I know that are freaked out by the mRNA vaccines because they involve injection of mRNA are precisely people that don’t know enough cell biology and are afraid of what they don’t know. I think it’s misleading to call the mRNA vaccines gene therapies since they don’t modify your DNA.

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You guys are hilarious. Serge is either spreading misinformation (as if anybody knows what is actually going on), or he’s freaking out because of ignorance. Lol. That’s ok because he’s proven he can take the abuse.

I have 2 close friends (around age 65) that died not too long after the shot and they were both healthy farmers with healthy hearts. Cardiac issues, no details. I’m aware people die. It didn’t seem random to me. Athletes dropping dead on the field? VAERS reports? How do you shut out all the information you don’t want to see? I can’t do it.

911 proved the government can’t be trusted. Building 7 did not drop because of office fires. You are sheeple, pawns for the sacrifice. If they kill a few, more will step in. I know they could find somebody more obedient to take my place. Somebody less lippy.

I’m ok with you guys doing whatever you choose, but forcing your narrow view on your fellow sheeple is where I draw the line. The sheeple have rights.

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That is NOT what mRNA vaccines do. I don’t know where you’re getting your “research” but it’s factually incorrect.

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You’re mistaken. My comments about the mRNA vaccines, as well as my decisions on whether it’s a good idea to take them or not, have nothing to do with the government. I don’t trust the government. My claims that the mRNA vaccines don’t modify your DNA is based on my knowledge and understanding of biology. Also while I think getting vaccinated was the most logical and least risky option for most people, that doesn’t mean I think the vaccines are completely harmless and without risk.

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If everybody pulls together, and gives it their all…we can make this place just like twitter!!! :partying_face:

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What about the Swedish study that shows it turns into DNA in the liver (in vitro):

It is true that people are afraid of what they don’t know, and there is a lot I don’t know about this. It doesn’t help that experts could get shunned or fired for giving their opinion if it disagreed with the official narrative.

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Except the Swedish study is flawed and was poorly done and did not at all show that the mRNA from the COVID vaccines gets incorporated into the DNA. They used the wrong method for determining that.

In addition, if you think about it, it’s pretty clear that the body is not going to convert free floating mRNA into DNA and incorporate it into the cell DNA. If your body actually did that to mRNA it comes into contact with you would be getting mutations in your DNA at such a high rate that you would have never even have managed to be born.

Bottom line, this idea that the mRNA vaccines will change your DNA is not based on good reasoning or science.

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Pontificating about imagined harms from vaccines is hardly responsive to whether you have gotten Covid.

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Yes… maybe @RapAdmin could put an end to this religious war on rapa.news?

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I don’t know where you got your info but that is exactly what the mrna “vaccines” do and yes I actually have a medical degree