What are the best strategies to maintain your early 20s appearance for as long as possible?

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Hi everyone,

I’m 22 years old. My goal isn’t primarily about longevity or extending lifespan — it’s more specific than that.

I want to maintain my current appearance — skin quality, hair density, and overall look — as close to my early 20s as possible, for as long as possible. I’m aware that collagen production starts declining in early adulthood, hair gradually thins, and skin elasticity begins to decrease. The difference between a 20-year-old and a 25-year-old is already noticeable to me, and I’d like to minimize that gap going forward.

So my question is: what interventions, habits, or supplements are most effective for preserving your current appearance, starting early — rather than trying to reverse damage later?

Things I’m already doing:

  • Time-restricted eating (5-hour eating window) and avoiding high blood sugar before sleep
  • Plant-forward diet, minimizing processed foods
  • Daily SPF 50+
  • Strength and cardio exercise
  • Topical retinoids (starting low concentration)
  • Vitamin C, astaxanthin, omega-3
  • Creatine

Is there anything else that has strong enough evidence to be worth adding at this age, specifically for the goal of appearance preservation?

Thanks.

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Its interesting… I just posted a paper where the perceived ages of younger people are more often more negative (over-estimates) than with older people… it seems younger people are much more negative in their judgements (not more accurate). So be careful about your estimates and biases…
See this:

The overarching finding challenges common assumptions: across the entire cohort, women were perceived as an average of 1.6 years older than their actual chronological age. However, this age distortion is highly non-linear across a lifespan. Chronologically younger women bear the heaviest burden of overestimation. Strikingly, teenagers in the 15–20 age group were judged to be an average of 5.6 years older than their true age. This overestimation tapers off mid-life, stabilized between ages 41–50 where perceived age aligns closely with reality. By contrast, an inversion occurs at the oldest end of the spectrum: women aged 61–65 were perceived as an average of 2.4 years younger than their chronological baseline.

and you’ll want to look at this related study: How to Stop or Reverse Skin Aging (2026) - #150 by RapAdmin

Generally it sounds like you are talking about facial skin, hair, etc.

See:

The only four skincare ingredients that have been proven to work

In the quest for better skin, we are faced with an overwhelming choice of creams and serums to enhance our appearance. Here’s what works – and what doesn’t

Deciphering claims about these ingredients can be tricky. “Every year, there are at least three more ‘miracles’ on the market,” says Fu’s colleague and fellow chemist Gloria Wu. However, in their book, Skincare Decoded , they focus on the “big 4” – ingredients with the strongest evidence to back up marketing claims. These are retinoids, vitamin C, niacinamide and alpha hydroxy acids (AHAs).

Read the full story: The only four skincare ingredients that have been proven to work (New Scientist)

from here: How to Reverse Skin Aging (2025)

learn about this: Dietary Advanced Glycation End Products as Active Drivers of Biological Aging

Advanced glycation end products 53:42

  • Advanced glycation end products are formed when meat is exposed to high dry heat temperatures and can cause inflammation and oxidative stress 53:42
  • Even steamed chicken can cause some inflammation, but less than fried chicken, and avoiding dry cooked meat products can help decrease pro-inflammatory components in the diet 54:29
  • Browning of carbohydrates, such as French fries, is not as concerning as the browning of proteins, which can lead to the formation of advanced glycation end products 55:05

Caramelization and acrylamide 55:25

  • Caramelization of carbohydrates is a different process from the Maillard reaction, which involves glycated proteins and can lead to the production of advanced glycation end products 55:25
  • Acrylamide, a potential carcinogen, is formed when carbohydrates are exposed to high dry heat temperatures, and decreasing intake of foods high in acrylamide, such as French fries and potato chips, is recommended 56:21

from here: Diet and Healthspan - Uncertain but High Value - #162 by A_User

if you start losing hair - perhaps start with this, but we have lots of ideas on the site, just search on “hair loss” or “hair growth”: Bryan Johnson: How I Reversed My Hair Loss + Greying

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#3

Here is the result from the following prompt on Claude (paid) Sonnet 4.6:

Role: Cosmetic dermatologist and longevity biologist. Task: Identify and rate and rank the top 10 to 20 scientifically and clinically validated actions, topicals or oral supplements or drugs, and other therapeutics or treatments that would help a 20 year old person maintain the appearance of youth for as long as possible. Provided links to the scientific papers that support this rating and ranking.

Claude Response:

Here is the evidence-ranked synthesis, written from the perspective of a cosmetic dermatologist and longevity biologist advising a 20-year-old.

Ranking: Top Interventions for Long-Term Youthful Appearance

Evidence tiers: ★★★★★ = Multiple high-quality RCTs/meta-analyses with large, consistent effects → ★☆☆☆☆ = Emerging, preliminary, or mechanistic only

Tier 1 — Non-negotiable Foundations (Highest Evidence, Highest Impact)

1. Daily Broad-Spectrum SPF 50+ Sunscreen ★★★★★

The single highest-leverage intervention. UV radiation drives ~80–90% of visible skin aging (photoaging), including wrinkles, dyspigmentation, loss of elasticity, and telangiectasias. The Hughes et al. 4.5-year community RCT (n=903) showed daily sunscreen users had 24% less skin aging than discretionary users — and this was measured in middle-aged adults. Starting at 20, compounding prevention over decades is immense. Modern evidence extends this to visible light and IRA; tinted sunscreens containing iron oxide are now recommended to block the full relevant spectrum. Reapply every 2 hours in direct sun. Sunscreen alone is not enough — physical barriers (UPF clothing, hats, sunglasses) meaningfully compound protection.

2. Never Smoking (or Cessation If You Do) ★★★★★

Smoking is the second most potent accelerant of facial aging after UV. Mechanisms are numerous and synergistic: chronic hypoxia (nicotine-induced vasoconstriction), upregulation of MMP-1 and MMP-9 (collagen/elastin degradation), ROS-mediated oxidative stress, depletion of skin vitamin C, and impaired fibroblast function. Smokers develop characteristic “smoker’s face” — deep perioral lines, sallow complexion, loss of facial volume — roughly 10–15 years ahead of non-smokers. Cessation halts further damage and allows partial recovery, but early prevention is far superior to reversal.

3. Topical Tretinoin (Prescription Retinoid, 0.025–0.05%) ★★★★★

Tretinoin (all-trans retinoic acid) has over 40 years of RCT data — the most rigorously studied topical anti-aging molecule in existence. It works through dual mechanisms: inhibiting AP-1 (which drives MMP-mediated collagen degradation) and directly stimulating procollagen I/III synthesis. A systematic review of 8 RCTs (n=1,361) showed significant improvement in fine lines, dyspigmentation, and texture. A network meta-analysis of 23 RCTs named tretinoin the most balanced treatment across efficacy and safety. For a 20-year-old: start low (0.025%), use every 2–3 nights, titrate up. OTC retinaldehyde is the best non-prescription alternative (~11x less potent than tretinoin but 1-conversion-step from retinoic acid vs. retinol’s 2 steps). Results compound over years.

Tier 2 — Strong Evidence, High Cumulative Impact

4. Topical L-Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C, 15–20%) ★★★★☆

Vitamin C is a cofactor for both lysyl and prolyl hydroxylases, enzymes essential to collagen crosslinking and stability. Applied topically, it upregulates mRNA for collagens I and III, neutralizes UVA/UVB-generated free radicals, and provides additive photoprotection when layered under sunscreen (~an extra ~8 SUN units of protection). A double-blind half-face RCT showed statistically significant improvement in wrinkling at 12 weeks, correlated with histologic new collagen formation. Key formulation caveat: L-ascorbic acid oxidizes rapidly; use stabilized formulations (pH 2.5–3.5, ≥15% concentration) in opaque/airtight packaging.

5. Topical Niacinamide (4–5%) ★★★★☆

Niacinamide is arguably the best-rounded cosmeceutical for skin barrier and aging: it improves barrier lipid synthesis (ceramides), reduces hyperpigmentation by inhibiting melanosome transfer, has anti-inflammatory effects, improves skin texture/sallowness, and at 5% it preserves UV-induced immune function. Unlike tretinoin, it is well tolerated by nearly all skin types with minimal irritation, making it ideal for daily use starting in the 20s. Clinical trials consistently demonstrate improvement in fine lines, pore appearance, and hydration at 4–5% concentrations.

6. Optimizing Sleep (7–9 hours; consistent circadian rhythm) ★★★★☆

Sleep is when the skin undergoes peak repair — growth hormone is secreted predominantly in the first sleep cycles, driving fibroblast proliferation and collagen production. Sleep deprivation elevates cortisol, which activates MMPs and suppresses collagen synthesis. Chronically poor sleep measurably alters transepidermal water loss, melanin content, and skin barrier integrity. Critically, high or flattened cortisol curves correlate with telomere shortening (effectively accelerated biological age) and reduced skin resilience. Consistent sleep timing (regulating the circadian clock) matters nearly as much as duration.

7. Minimizing or Eliminating Alcohol ★★★★☆

Heavy alcohol use accelerates facial aging through multiple converging mechanisms: chronic dehydration (diuretic effect impairs skin barrier), vasodilation causing permanent telangiectasias and rosacea, depletion of vitamins A and C (critical for collagen synthesis), increased hepatic oxidative stress reducing whole-body antioxidant capacity, and promotion of systemic inflammation. Even moderate chronic use produces measurable changes in facial appearance. For a 20-year-old forming lifetime habits, this is a high-leverage behavioral intervention.

8. Regular Exercise (Aerobic + Resistance Training) ★★★☆☆

A 16-week RCT in 61 sedentary women comparing aerobic vs. resistance training found both significantly improved skin elasticity and upper dermal structure; resistance training additionally increased dermal thickness by 0.05mm. Mechanistically, exercise drives IL-15 secretion from muscle (a myokine that stimulates dermal fibroblasts), increases skin blood flow delivering oxygen and nutrients, stimulates mitochondrial biogenesis in fibroblasts, and reduces systemic inflammatory cytokines that accelerate skin aging. A 2023 Scientific Reports study showed resistance training specifically rejuvenated aging skin by reducing circulating inflammatory factors and enhancing extracellular matrix components.

9. Anti-Glycation Diet (Low-Sugar, Mediterranean-Style) ★★★☆☆

Dietary glucose and fructose react non-enzymatically with skin collagen and elastin to form Advanced Glycation End-products (AGEs). AGEs crosslink collagen fibers, increasing stiffness, brittleness, and susceptibility to degradation — directly producing wrinkles, loss of elasticity, and sallow complexion. High-temperature cooking (grilling, frying) creates exogenous dietary AGEs compounding the problem. The Mediterranean diet has been shown to reduce circulating AGEs (εN-carboxymethyllysine, methylglyoxal) and skin autofluorescence. For a 20-year-old: limiting added sugars and ultra-processed foods compounding UV damage makes a meaningful long-term difference.

Tier 3 — Solid Supporting Evidence, Meaningful Incremental Benefit

10. Oral Nicotinamide (Vitamin B3, 500mg twice daily) ★★★★☆

Oral nicotinamide is a NAD+ precursor that restores declining NAD+ levels in keratinocytes and fibroblasts, supporting DNA repair (via PARP-1 and sirtuin activation), reducing UV-induced immunosuppression, and enhancing mitochondrial function. A Phase 3 RCT showed 500mg twice daily reduced actinic keratoses by 35% and squamous cell carcinoma by 30% — evidence for meaningful UV-damage mitigation. For a 20-year-old, it acts as an oral adjunct to sunscreen. Available OTC, well-tolerated, inexpensive.

11. Stress Management (Cortisol Regulation) ★★★☆☆

Chronic psychological stress has measurable, molecular effects on skin aging: elevated cortisol activates MMPs, degrades collagen and elastin, suppresses telomerase (accelerating telomere shortening), impairs skin barrier function, and promotes systemic inflammaging. Research shows high perceived stress correlates with telomere length equivalent to a full decade of additional aging. Interventions with evidence include mindfulness-based stress reduction (MBSR), CBT, and — importantly — exercise and sleep optimization (interventions 6 and 8 above overlap here). For a 20-year-old, establishing habits early is the most efficient path.

12. Oral Collagen Peptides (10g/day + Vitamin C cofactor) ★★★☆☆

A 2023 meta-analysis of 23 RCTs (n=1,474) and a 2025 American Journal of Medicine meta-analysis confirmed significant improvements in skin hydration, elasticity, and wrinkle appearance with hydrolyzed collagen peptides. Important caveat: the 2025 meta-analysis found the effect vanished in high-quality, industry-independent studies — funding bias is a real confounder here. Mechanistically plausible: oral collagen peptides are absorbed as di/tripeptides, stimulate dermal fibroblasts, and accumulate in skin. The scientific debate is ongoing. Best evidence favors marine or Type I/III bovine hydrolyzed collagen at ≥10g/day; always co-administer with vitamin C.

13. Oral Hyaluronic Acid (120–240mg/day) ★★★☆☆

Multiple RCTs demonstrate oral HA supplementation improves skin hydration, elasticity, and reduces wrinkle depth measurably by 8–12 weeks. A 2025 Scientific Reports RCT in 150 healthy adults confirmed improved hydration, barrier function, and signs of aging. Low-molecular-weight HA appears to have better bioavailability. This is a well-tolerated, low-risk supplement with consistent RCT support.

14. Astaxanthin (8–12mg/day, oral) ★★★☆☆

Astaxanthin is the most potent carotenoid antioxidant known — 100–500x higher ORAC than vitamin E, 10x higher than lutein. Mechanistically: suppresses UV-induced MMP-1 expression, reduces inflammatory cytokines, and limits collagen degradation. A 2021 meta-analysis of human RCTs found significant improvements in skin moisture, elasticity, and wrinkle reduction. Studies also show reduced UV-induced erythema (measurable internal photoprotection). The evidence base is smaller than for retinoids/sunscreen, but the safety profile is excellent and the mechanism is robust.

Tier 4 — Emerging Evidence / In-Office Interventions

15. RF Microneedling / Collagen Induction Therapy (in-office) ★★★★☆

Radiofrequency microneedling delivers controlled thermal energy to the dermis, stimulating neocollagenesis, elastogenesis, and angiogenesis. Histological studies confirm collagen fiber remodeling 3–6 months post-treatment. Controlled trials show statistically significant improvement in skin texture, wrinkle depth, and laxity. For a 20-year-old, annual or bi-annual treatments starting in the late 20s (as early signs of photoaging emerge) would be highly preventive. Standard microneedling (without RF) also has solid evidence for collagen induction via the wound-healing cascade.

16. Topical Rapamycin (0.1%) ★★☆☆☆

The most intellectually exciting emerging intervention on this list. An exploratory RCT in humans applying 0.1% topical rapamycin found significant reduction in p16INK4A (a canonical cellular senescence marker) and increase in collagen VII expression, with clinical improvement in skin appearance. The mTOR pathway is one of the most conserved aging regulators across species. Topical application avoids systemic immunosuppression risks. The evidence base is still small (one primary RCT), but the mechanistic logic is among the most compelling in longevity biology. Watch this space over the next 5 years.

17. Topical Growth Factors and Bioactive Peptides ★★☆☆☆

EGF, TGF-β, and synthetic signal peptides (e.g., palmitoyl tripeptide-1, matrikines) stimulate fibroblast collagen production and skin repair pathways. EGF has the best clinical evidence — shown to increase HA production, promote fibroblast contractility, and improve skin texture. However, the RCT literature is smaller and less consistent than for retinoids or vitamin C. Stability and penetration through the stratum corneum remain formulation challenges. Most evidence is from branded product-funded trials. Best used as an adjunct in a comprehensive regimen, not a foundation.

Summary Priority Stack for a 20-Year-Old

The highest return on investment comes from stacking the Tier 1 interventions daily with near-perfect consistency — UV avoidance, not smoking, tretinoin, and vitamin C. These four alone, maintained from age 20, would produce a dramatically different face at 45 compared to doing nothing. Each subsequent tier provides meaningful but diminishing marginal returns. The lifestyle interventions (sleep, diet, exercise, alcohol, stress) are often undervalued clinically but have profound compounding effects on biological aging rate beyond just skin appearance.

Sources:

Google Gemini Additions

Google Gemini had most of the same results as Claude, with the same prompt. But some variations are identified below:

Rank Intervention Category Primary Molecular/Physiological Target Level of Evidence (Oxford CEBM)
8 Photobiomodulation (Red/NIR LED, 630–830 nm) Device Therapy Stimulates mitochondrial cytochrome c oxidase; increases cellular ATP production Level 2 (Randomized Controlled Trials)
9 Physiological Lipid Moisturizers (Ceramides/Fatty Acids) Topical Base Repairs stratum corneum barrier; reduces trans-epidermal water loss (TEWL) Level 2 (Clinical Trials)
10 Oral Polypodium leucotomos Extract Oral Supplement Systemic photoprotection; dampens UV-mediated phototoxicity and depletion of Langerhans cells Level 2 (Randomized Controlled Trials)
13 Superficial Alpha-Hydroxy Acid (AHA) Peels Dermatological Treatment Upregulates desquamation; induces uniform epidermal differentiation and mild dermal remodeling Level 2 (Clinical Trials)

8. Photobiomodulation (Low-Level Light Therapy / LED)

  • Mechanism: Photons within the red (630–660 nm) and near-infrared (810–830 nm) spectra penetrate the epidermis to reach dermal fibroblasts. The primary intracellular chromophore is cytochrome c oxidase, located within the mitochondrial respiratory chain. Absorption of this light energy alters the mitochondrial membrane potential, optimizes electron transport, and generates a transient, low-level burst of ROS that activates downstream transcription factors. This results in enhanced ATP production, increased procollagen gene transcription, and the down-regulation of pro-inflammatory cytokines.
  • Supporting Evidence: Clinical quantification of dermal density improvements can be reviewed in Reverse skin aging signs by red light photobiomodulation.

Physiological Lipid Moisturizers (Ceramides / Fatty Acids)

What They Are & How They Work

The stratum corneum’s lipid matrix is composed of roughly 50% ceramides, 25% cholesterol, and 15% free fatty acidsby mass. These three lipid classes are organized into lamellar bilayers that gate water loss through the skin. When this ratio is disrupted — by aging, eczema, over-cleansing, or environmental insult — trans-epidermal water loss (TEWL) rises, barrier integrity degrades, and susceptibility to irritants and pathogens increases.

Physiological lipid moisturizers work by replacing the exact lipid species the skin uses natively, rather than just occluding the surface. The goal is to restore the lamellar architecture, re-establish the ceramide profile, and normalize TEWL. The key insight from Elias, Feingold, and colleagues is that a ceramide-dominant ratio (3:1:1 ceramide:cholesterol:fatty acid) accelerates barrier repair beyond what an equimolar mixture achieves.

Clinical & Scientific Evidence Summary

Mechanism / Basic Science (Level 1 Evidence) The foundational science comes from Elias & Feingold’s decades of work establishing that ceramide depletion is the proximate cause of barrier dysfunction, and that topical repletion of all three physiological lipid classes (not ceramides alone) restores lamellar bilayer structure in the stratum corneum.

Randomized Controlled Trials (Level 2)

Systematic Reviews & Meta-Analyses (Level 1)

Clinical Perspective on Aging Skin

Evidence Grade: The combination of mechanistic RCTs, comparative RCTs, and multiple meta-analyses firmly places this at Level 2 (strong clinical trial evidence), with some Level 1 support from systematic reviews. No major safety concerns have been identified across studies.

Reputable Products, Pricing & Where to Buy

Budget tier — accessible, dermatologist-recommended

Product Key Lipids Price Buy
CeraVe Moisturizing Cream Ceramides 1, 3, 6-II + hyaluronic acid ~$20 / 19 oz Amazon, Walmart, Target, CVS
CeraVe Daily Moisturizing Lotion Ceramides 1, 3, 6-II ~$14 / 12 oz CeraVe.com, major retailers

CeraVe is the #1 dermatologist-recommended brand in the U.S. and the most studied over-the-counter ceramide option. Its MVE delivery technology provides extended release.

Mid-tier — medical-grade, higher ceramide concentration

Product Key Lipids Price Buy
EltaMD PM Restore Moisturizer Ceramides + hyaluronic acid + niacinamide ~$48 / 1.7 oz EltaMD.com, Dermstore
EltaMD Barrier Renewal Complex Ceramides + essential lipids + peptides ~$63 / 1 oz EltaMD.com

Premium / clinical tier — evidence-based lipid ratio

Product Key Lipids Price Buy
SkinCeuticals Triple Lipid Restore 2:4:2 2% ceramides, 4% cholesterol, 2% fatty acids ~$128–$155 / 1.6 oz SkinCeuticals.com, Dermstore, Blue Mercury
MimyX Cream Full physiological lipid complex (Rx-adjacent OTC) ~$100+ / 140g CVS, pharmacy dispensing

SkinCeuticals Triple Lipid Restore is the only consumer product with a published clinical trial specifically on its 2:4:2 ratio showing improvements in skin texture, tone, and self-assessed aging parameters. MimyX is the most “pharmaceutical-grade” OTC barrier repair cream, derived directly from the Elias/Feingold research.

Bottom line: The evidence base is solid — multiple RCTs and meta-analyses confirm ceramide-dominant physiological lipid formulations measurably reduce TEWL, restore barrier integrity, and outperform standard non-lipid moisturizers. The ratio matters: ceramide-dominant (3:1:1) formulas repair barrier faster than equimolar blends. Value scales steeply by tier; CeraVe delivers the core mechanism at a fraction of the premium-tier price.

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How to Stop or Reverse Skin Aging (2026)
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I just turned 40. I think I look pretty good for my age. My wife is 45 and I think she looks exceptional for her age (most people place her as in early 30’s).

I can look around at my peers, people I went to school with, and I can guess what factors have made a big difference to how they look now at 40.

My advice would be:

  1. Choose good parents. Genetics seem to matter a lot. Honestly, the people who had good-looking, well-maintained parents when we were at school, now seem to be better looking themselves. E.g. if their dad had a full head of black hair back then, their son probably still has a full head of hair too. My classmates who had attractive mums also seem to be better looking.

  2. Sunscreen. Sun damage makes you look way older. I know you covered this already, but I wish I’d been more consistent with this.

  3. Maintaining a stable, sensible body fat and body weight. Being very lean makes you look older IMO, since you need a bit of facial chub to look youthful. The worst seems to be gaining weight and then losing it, thus creating extra loose skin. Sagging jowls, chins etc.

  4. Stress. The guys I know who have had a stressful 20 years all look worse. Running your own company. High pressure jobs. Divorces or deaths in the family. I think these all age you a lot. I’ve been fortunate in this regard. I’m a Professor, which can be mildly stressful, but there’s nothing really that critical about what I do. End of the day, grading papers, writing grants and publishing research really isn’t as stressful as facing bankruptcy, having a marriage break down or being homeless.

  5. Sleep. Probably directly related to above about stress.

  6. Hygiene and basic maintenance. Not sure if it’s preventing ageing exactly, but it makes a huge difference. Having good oral hygiene, not having greasy hair etc. I see people getting older, and letting go and giving up on maintaining things, which makes them look a lot older.

  7. I’d probably avoid anabolic steroids, growth hormone etc. I believe those age your appearance too.

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#5

Carotenoids, sunscreen, tretinoin, finasteride/dutasteride, minoxidil, collagen peptides, hyaluronic acid, GLP1, sufficent protein intake.

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#6

The fact that you are paying attention to this at such a young age is remarkable. It will pay dividends in the long run and you’ll be positioned to live well, age well, and look young.

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I am actually 76.

Tretinoin since age 16 (but rarely any more) and all the lifestyle stuff, plus serums, ascorbic acid, azelaic acid, etc.

But, it has to be said: it helps to have the slightly mediterranean olive skin that seems to wrinkle less than fair skin. I am lucky in my skin, but very unlucky in my bones.

And, it helps to take advantage of some of the cosmetic “interventions”: botox, sculptra and a little juvederm. Even those little smoothies patches are quite helpful.

It seems you need to pursue many strategies, and it helps to have skin that is not very fair . . .

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#8

I don’t have any specific advice, but just wanted to mention a few things: when I was in my 20s, 30s, and early-to-mid-40s, I tended to look too “boyish” – too young – and then I don’t think I really started looking like a full man until about age 48. I am now 53, and not far from 54, and feel that I reached my peak around age 48.

But there is an interesting mystery. Looking at some old photos of myself, I have one at age 46 where I look older than I do right now. That picture was taken just after I had finished a very long calorie-restriction diet regimen to lose weight and improve health (I was on it for like a year). Perhaps I had nutrient deficits; and perhaps, also, when you look a little older, it resembles a nutrient deficit from a slightly younger age. After I finished that calorie-restriction diet and started eating fuller, very healthy meals (lots of salads and ample protein), I started looking a lot younger. It wouldn’t have surprised me that if I had had an epigenetic test done at the time that the “age” would have dropped 10 years in the span of just a few months.

I generally take a bunch of supplements that many people talk about on this forum, and also use sunscreen, vitamin C (+ferulic+vitamin e) serum, AHAs, BHAs, and have used over-the-counter retinoids before. Every type of vitamin C I’ve applied to skin in the past seemed to work well for me, as does sunscreen. AHAs probably also work well if you use them over a long enough timeframe. I say this based on several examples of older people who said online that using chemical exfoliants has kept their skin younger-looking than most – e.g. in this post:

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#9

I was offended by Claude’s top “Tier 1 — Non-negotiable Foundations (Highest Evidence, Highest Impact)” being sunscreen. So this post could be controversial, however well intended.

There is a tradeoff between good skin and mental health. Maybe you can’t have both. Sunlight triggers the release of Serotonin and Endorphins. Bright light suppresses daytime melatonin to improve daytime alertness and sleep quality. IR light from morning or evening walks actually helps heal any problems caused by the UV light.

Sunlight hitting your skin will make your life better. It will improve mood and focus and improve the lives of people around you. I’m a 65 year old farmer and have never used any sunscreen in my life. I have a few wrinkles, but they don’t bother me at all. There are many bigger problems in life and most of them can be solved with sunshine on the skin.

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#10

Everyone missed one IMO.

Never get overweight to any degree. The older you get, the harder it is for your skin to bounce back. Look at any of the people who have lost much weight later in life. You can drink all of the collagen you want and spend big bucks on creams and lotions; your skin will not retain its youthful elasticity. If you must lose weight, lose it slowly. Ozempic will just give you Ozempic face along with the weight loss.

Unless you are very young, losing a significant amount of weight will almost always make you look older. If you let yourself get to be obese and then lose weight, you will need cosmetic surgery to get rid of all that extra skin that will never go away on its own.

People who rarely let the sun hit their faces will surely have fewer wrinkles than sun worshipers, no matter how much sunscreen they put on their faces.

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#11

I did mention it earlier :stuck_out_tongue: But you’re totally right about Ozempic face. I have a friend who has lost around 30kg. While he certainly looks a lot slimmer and feels better, he looks way older overall. Cheeks have completely sunken, loads of loose skin on the neck, and of course the body.

Perhaps. I do also love having warm sun on my skin. But sunscreens only filter the UV which damages the skin and causes cancer and definitely causes aging. You can still benefit from the infrared and actual light energy while wearing sunscreen. I also totally agree with you about suppressing melatonin and helping wakefulness. People who sit in indoor offices all day tend to feel super tired even though they aren’t doing much. Once we moved house and I now walk the kids to school in the morning (20 mins), I feel way better by the time I get to work. However, the best time to really get that bright light is in the morning when the UV index isn’t as high.

I also think people need to consider their skin type and their geographical location. As a very white guy currently living in a place with a high UV index, the sun is definitely not my friend. For a darker-skinner person it may be much less concerning, and for a person living in a low UV index area, they definitely need to get outdoors more.

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#12

I got a subscription to astaxanthin quite a while ago, maybe a year. Started wearing shorts quite a bit this year and for long times in the sun and have not gotten even pink. That actually works. It may also help to avoid omega 6 oils, which I’ve done completely now.

So I think with the right diet full sun can be even safer and better.

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#14

Astaxanthin probably does something but it provides nowhere near the same level of protection as actual sunscreen.

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#15

I don’t know what the right balance is… but to support the benefits of sunshine… and @bicep, I hope you’re doing naked cartwheels in the sun each morning :wink:

The best way to start your day? The science backs naked cartwheels in the sun (nature)

A dazzling book explains our bodies’ dependence on sunlight for everything from sleep to skin and bone health.

Weighing up the pros and cons of sun-cream use poses a dilemma for Jacobsen. It has been effective in reducing the rates of treatable squamous cell and basal cell carcinomas, which form about 99% of non-melanoma skin cancer cases. But photobiologist Brian Diffey and other scientists say that the evidence that sun creams reduce melanoma rates efficiently is still lacking.

Genetics, a poor diet, skin type and sunburns in childhood can all increase the chances of developing melanoma. Jacobsen and Diffey cite factors such as latitude, time of day and time of year as considerations for when to apply sun cream. Many specialists champion clothing and shade as proven protectors, especially for fair-skinned children.

However, Jacobsen’s book analyses sunlight more than it does sun cream, and he goes on to offer many positive perspectives. One study he mentions analysed the skin of lifeguards at the start and end of a summer season during which they were heavily exposed to the sun1. By summer’s end, their skin was enriched with microbial “beneficial bugs” that protect against UV radiation. A square centimetre of human skin contains millions of microorganisms, some of which produce compounds that kill cancer cells without harming normal ones.

Beneficial rays

What is more, people’s over-reliance on vitamin-D tablets is debated. It’s true that rickets, a childhood condition that causes bones to weaken, was suppressed with the help of vitamin-D-fortified foods. However, the disease has risen again among children who spend a lot of time indoors and don’t get enough exposure to sunlight. For people with less than 20 nanograms per millilitre of vitamin D in their blood, taking a supplement won’t do them harm. But sunshine on skin produces vitamin D naturally, in the form of a hormone that helps calcium to get into our bones.

For natural vitamin-D production, skin-cancer specialist Rachel Neale advocates regular short exposures to sunlight, with as much skin bared as possible. Jacobsen therefore proposes that “ten minutes of naked cartwheels in the backyard might not be a terrible idea”.

Jacobsen responds in kind here, pitching his own mantra for our longevity and well-being: “Get sun. Not too much. Go outside.”

Book review: The best way to start your day? The science backs naked cartwheels in the sun

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#16

I think Masterjohn would agree that cartwheels are good since you spend time upside down. Naked cartwheels in the sun…probably fantastic. I’ve had a lot of trouble with my elbows and shoulders so I’ll pass for now. But I’m in favor in theory.

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