We Finally Know the Best Time to Take Antioxidants (Backed by New Research) Siim land

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A. Executive Summary (≈230 words)

The video examines how antioxidant supplementation interacts with exercise-induced inflammatory signaling and how timing, type of antioxidant, and age modify the outcome. Exercise acutely increases pro-inflammatory cytokines (e.g., IL-6, TNF-α) and reactive oxygen species (ROS), which serve as adaptive signals: they upregulate endogenous antioxidant systems, stimulate hypertrophy pathways, and improve resilience. Exogenous antioxidants—if taken after exercise—can dampen these signals, reducing training adaptations (especially strength and hypertrophy). However, the relationship is not uniform across antioxidant classes, nor across age groups.

A 2024 meta-analysis (39 RCTs) shows that in older adults—who have chronically elevated baseline inflammation—combining antioxidants with exercise produces superior strength gains compared to exercise alone. This aligns with the concept that excessive basal inflammation impairs adaptation, so normalization (not suppression) can help.

Specific antioxidants show heterogeneous effects. Omega-3 fatty acids reliably reduce CRP, IL-6, and TNF-α without blunting hypertrophy, and may enhance strength and muscle recovery. NAC suppresses post-exercise inflammatory signaling when taken after exercise but improves endurance performance when taken before exercise. Vitamin C/E can reduce some training adaptations post-exercise but may promote collagen synthesis when taken pre-exercise with gelatin. Astaxanthin appears beneficial in older adults when combined with resistance training. Melatonin improves recovery but may blunt anabolic signaling; data are mixed.

Overall, timing is the primary determinant: antioxidants after exercise risk blunting beneficial signals, while antioxidants before exercise can enhance performance and are especially advantageous for older adults or those overreaching in training.


B. Bullet Summary (16 bullets)

  • Exercise-induced ROS and cytokines are adaptive signals essential for hypertrophy and endogenous antioxidant upregulation.
  • Antioxidants taken after exercise can blunt muscle growth and strength improvements by blocking ROS signaling.
  • Age is a critical moderator: older adults have elevated baseline inflammation, altering their response profile.
  • A 2024 meta-analysis (39 RCTs) shows antioxidants + exercise improved leg-press strength (+15.3 kg) more than exercise alone.
  • Omega-3 supplementation reduces inflammatory markers (CRP, IL-6, TNF-α) by 10–25% across >400 studies.
  • Omega-3s do not reduce hypertrophy and likely support muscle recovery.
  • NAC taken after exercise blunts adaptations by disrupting inflammatory signaling.
  • NAC taken before exercise improves performance, endurance, and fatigue resistance via increased glutathione.
  • Vitamin C/E post-exercise may reduce strength gains and alter protein signaling.
  • Vitamin C + gelatin before training enhances collagen synthesis.
  • Astaxanthin (2017 trial) enhanced strength and mass in older adults when combined with resistance training.
  • Melatonin reduces inflammation and speeds recovery but may blunt training adaptations.
  • Animal studies suggest melatonin protects against age-related sarcopenia.
  • Timing determines risk vs. benefit for nearly all antioxidants.
  • Older adults benefit most from antioxidants, especially pre-training.
  • Overtrained athletes or high-volume trainees may benefit from antioxidants to control chronic inflammation.

D. Claims & Evidence Table

Claim Evidence Provided Assessment
Antioxidants after exercise blunt hypertrophy and adaptations. Multiple studies showing reduced ROS signaling, reduced strength gains (e.g., Vit C/E trials). Strong for C/E/NAC; mixed for others.
Older adults benefit from combining antioxidants with exercise. 2024 meta-analysis: +15.28 kg leg press vs exercise alone. Strong, multi-trial RCT data.
Omega-3s reduce systemic inflammation by 10–25%. 2022 umbrella meta-analysis (32 meta-analyses; 400+ studies). Strong, highly consistent.
Omega-3s do not suppress muscle growth. Meta-analyses of >12 studies showing neutral or positive effects on strength. Strong.
NAC pre-exercise improves endurance and time-to-exhaustion. 2023 meta-analysis of 16 RCTs (600–2,400 mg NAC). Strong.
Vitamin C pre-exercise boosts collagen synthesis when combined with gelatin. RCT with 15 g gelatin + 48 mg Vit C → higher collagen synthesis. Moderate–Strong.
Astaxanthin enhances mass/strength in elderly trainees. 2017 clinical trial. Moderate (single study).
Melatonin may blunt beneficial adaptations. Small human study showing reduced training responses; mixed animal data. Weak–Speculative.

E. Actionable Insights (9 items)

  1. Avoid antioxidants immediately after resistance training if hypertrophy or strength development is the goal.
  2. Use antioxidants before training (60–120 min) if the objective is improved performance or reduced fatigue—especially NAC and vitamin C.
  3. Omega-3s are safe at any timing, with no evidence of blunted adaptations.
  4. Older adults (≥60) benefit from antioxidants + exercise, ideally pre-exercise.
  5. For tendon/joint health, use 15 g gelatin + ~50 mg vitamin C 1 hour before exercise to stimulate collagen synthesis.
  6. Avoid melatonin immediately post-exercise unless sleep quality outweighs potential blunting of adaptations.
  7. Those training at high volumes or experiencing overreaching may strategically use antioxidants to manage chronic inflammation.
  8. NAC pre-training (600–2,000 mg) is beneficial for endurance sessions; avoid post-training NAC on lifting days.
  9. Astaxanthin is suitable pre-training for older individuals needing recovery and strength support.

H. Technical Deep-Dive (Optional)

Key physiology:
Exercise elevates acute cytokines (IL-6, TNF-α) and ROS, activating redox-sensitive transcription factors (NRF2, NF-κB) and anabolic signaling pathways (mTORC1 activation, satellite cell activity). These same ROS act as signaling intermediates enabling mitochondrial biogenesis via PGC-1α, and strengthening endogenous antioxidant systems (SOD, catalase, GPx).

Why antioxidants can blunt adaptations:
Exogenous antioxidants mop up ROS before they can activate these pathways—blocking the adaptive transcriptional cascade, reducing satellite-cell recruitment, and dampening the hormetic response.

Why older adults differ:
Aging increases basal NF-κB activity, TNF-α, IL-6, and oxidative stress. This chronic “inflammaging” suppresses anabolic signaling and elevates muscle catabolism. Antioxidants reduce pathological background inflammation, removing inhibition on adaptation signaling.


I. Fact-Check of Key Claims

  • Omega-3 anti-inflammatory effects are well supported by large RCTs and umbrella reviews (e.g., Alexander et al., 2022).
    :heavy_check_mark: Accurate

  • Antioxidants blunting hypertrophy is supported by human studies on Vitamin C/E (e.g., Paulsen 2014).
    :heavy_check_mark: Accurate

  • NAC improving endurance pre-exercise matches multiple RCTs (e.g., [Medved 2004], [Cobley 2023]).
    :heavy_check_mark: Accurate

  • Astaxanthin increasing strength/mass in older adults is based on a single moderate-quality RCT.
    :warning: Moderate evidence; needs replication

  • Melatonin blunting adaptations is inconclusive; small human studies vs. positive animal data.
    :warning: Uncertain, evidence mixed


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Since there is such a wide variation in response to resistance training, i.e., easy gainers vs hard gainers and everything in between, it would be extremely hard to measure the effect, especially since the association is weak.

New video by Brad Stanfield that is related:

The punchline is that antioxidants may have some of their claimed health benefits, after all… if you’re older (50s and above).

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Video Summary: The Antioxidant Paradox (Age-Dependent Effects)

A. Executive Summary

This video outlines the turbulent scientific history of antioxidant supplementation, moving from the “hype” of the 1990s to the “danger” of the 2000s, and finally to a nuanced, age-dependent understanding in 2024.

Initially, observation of the Nurses’ Health Study (1993) suggested Vitamin E reduced heart disease risk. However, rigorous Randomized Controlled Trials (RCTs) like the Cambridge Heart Antioxidant Study (1996) and a massive 2008 Cochrane Review debunked this, revealing that high-dose antioxidants (Vitamin A, E, Beta Carotene) actually increased mortality and had no cardiovascular benefit. Further damage was done in 2014 when studies showed antioxidants blunted the benefits of exercise in young people by neutralizing the free radicals required for cellular signaling (hormesis).

The narrative shifts with a new 2024/2025 Meta-Analysis focusing on older adults (>55). It reveals a critical divergence: while antioxidants harm young people by killing necessary stress signals, they help older adults by dampening the “wildfire” of chronic oxidative stress, thereby allowing exercise to be effective again. The video concludes with a pragmatic protocol: avoid direct antioxidants (Vit A/E) in youth, but consider glutathione precursors (GlyNAC) or targeted support after age 45 to restore redox balance without overdosing on scavengers.


B. Bullet Summary

The Rise and Fall (History)

  • Early Hype: In the 1990s, the “Free Radical Theory of Aging” fueled a belief that neutralizing oxidants would extend life and stop heart disease.
  • Flawed Data: The 1993 Nurses’ Health Study (observational) falsely linked high Vitamin E intake to a 34-41% reduction in heart disease.
  • The Reversal: The 1996 CHAOS trial (RCT) found Vitamin E reduced non-fatal heart attacks but increased fatal ones and overall death rates.
  • Mortality Risk: A 2008 Cochrane review of 67 RCTs confirmed that Vitamin A, E, and Beta Carotene supplements increased all-cause mortality by up to 16%.

The Exercise Mechanism (Young vs. Old)

  • Hormesis: Exercise produces free radicals (ROS) which act as essential signals, telling cells to adapt and get stronger.
  • Blunting Effect: In young, healthy people, taking antioxidants neutralizes these signals, canceling out the fitness gains from workouts (2014 study).
  • The “Wildfire” Analogy: In youth, ROS is a “controlled burn” that strengthens the forest. In old age, it becomes a “wildfire” that destroys tissue.
  • Age Divergence: A new meta-analysis (39 RCTs, >55 y/o) shows that in older adults, antioxidants enhance muscle strength and do not blunt exercise.

The Solution: GlyNAC & Precursors

  • Direct vs. Precursor: Instead of taking “direct” antioxidants (Vit E/C), the speaker advocates for “precursors” like GlyNAC (Glycine + N-Acetyl Cysteine).
  • Rate Limiting: Precursors provide the building blocks for Glutathione, allowing the body to regulate production naturally rather than flooding the system.
  • GlyNAC Results: A 2022 RCT showed GlyNAC improved aging hallmarks (mitochondrial function, inflammation, insulin resistance) in older adults but had no effect on young people.
  • Protocol: The speaker recommends starting GlyNAC at age 45, the point where natural glutathione levels begin to tank.

C. Claims & Evidence Table (Adversarial Peer Review)

Claim from Video Speaker’s Evidence Scientific Reality (Best Available Data) Evidence Grade Verdict
“Antioxidant supplements increase mortality.” Cites 2008 Cochrane Review (67 RCTs). Confirmed. Cochrane (Bjelakovic et al., 2012 update) confirms Vit E, Beta-carotene, and high-dose Vit A significantly increase mortality. A (Meta-Analysis) Strong Support (Safety Warning)
“Antioxidants blunt exercise adaptation in youth.” Cites 2014 study (Paulsen et al.). Confirmed. Vit C (1000mg) + Vit E (235mg) blunted mitochondrial biogenesis and strength gains in young men. B (RCT) Strong Support
“Antioxidants + Exercise improves muscle in older adults.” Cites “New Meta-Analysis” (39 RCTs, >55 y/o). Confirmed. Wang et al. (2024/2025) found antioxidants + exercise improved leg press & walking speed more than exercise alone in elderly. A (Meta-Analysis) Strong Support
“GlyNAC reverses aging hallmarks in humans.” Cites 2022 “small study” (Sekhar/Kumar). Promising. RCT (n=36) showed improvements in GSH, oxidative stress, and mitochondrial function. Replicated in mice. Small sample size limits generalizability. B (Small RCT) Plausible / Emerging
“Glutathione levels tank at age 45.” General claim. Nuanced. GSH declines linearly with age. “Tanking at 45” is a rough heuristic; decline is progressive, but clinical deficiency is most marked in >60s. C (Observational) Generally Correct

D. Actionable Insights

Top Tier (High Confidence)

  • Stop “Direct” Antioxidants in Youth (<45): If you are healthy and under 45, do not take Vitamin E, A, or high-dose C immediately around exercise windows (1-4 hours pre/post). It sabotages your gains.
  • Prioritize Whole Foods: Get Vitamin A and E from diet (nuts, seeds, leafy greens). The mortality risks found in Cochrane reviews were specific to supplements, not food sources.
  • Resistance Training: The single most effective intervention for longevity. In older adults, even without supplements, exercise is the primary driver of health.

Experimental (Risk/Reward > 45)

  • GlyNAC Protocol (>45 y/o):

  • Rationale: Restores glutathione levels without the “blunting” risk of direct antioxidants.

  • Dosage (Based on Kumar et al. 2022): ~100mg/kg/day of Glycine and NAC (split dose). Note: This is a high dose; standard commercial supplements are lower.

  • Commercial Alternative: standard NAC (600-1200mg) + Glycine (3-5g).

  • Targeted Antioxidants for Sarcopenia (>60 y/o): If you are over 60 and struggling to build muscle despite training, moderate antioxidant supplementation (e.g., Vitamin C/E) may be helpful rather than harmful (based on Wang et al. meta-analysis).


E. Technical Deep-Dive: The Redox Balance & Hormesis

This video touches on a fundamental shift in biology: moving from “Oxidative Stress is Bad” to “ROS are Signaling Molecules.”

1. Mitohormesis

  • Mechanism: Mitochondria produce Reactive Oxygen Species (ROS) during ATP synthesis.
  • Signal Transduction: These ROS molecules oxidize specific cysteine residues on proteins (like PGC-1α), triggering a cascade that upregulates endogenous antioxidant defenses (SOD, Catalase) and mitochondrial biogenesis.
  • The Trap: Exogenous antioxidants (pills) “quench” the ROS signal before it can trigger the adaptation. You reduce the stress, but you also eliminate the adaptation to the stress.

2. The Age-Related Redox Shift

  • Young Physiology: High endogenous antioxidant capacity. Excess ROS production (exercise) is quickly buffered after the signal is sent.
  • Aged Physiology: Endogenous defense (Glutathione) is depleted. ROS production is chronically elevated (leaky mitochondria). The system is in a state of chronic, unresolving oxidative stress.
  • The Intervention Flip: Because the baseline stress is so high in the elderly, it crosses the threshold from “signaling” to “damage.” Here, antioxidants act as a buffer to bring ROS levels back down into the “signaling zone,” allowing exercise to work again.

Visualizing the “Goldilocks Zone”:

Too Low ROS: No adaptation (Sedentary or Over-supplemented).
Optimal ROS: Strong Adaptation (Exercise in Youth).
Too High ROS: Cellular Damage/Senescence (Aging).
Goal: Keep ROS in the Optimal zone. Young people are naturally there; older adults need help (GlyNAC) to get back down to it.

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