Underrated wild fruits/vegetables/plants not found in supermarkets

AlexKChen · September 16, 2025, 1:37pm

They force you to pay more attention to plants in general (and their entire structure).
Appreciation of plant biodiversity/botanical gardens is also smg older people are drawn to (like Fred Sanger!).

They are often healthier than mass bred fruit bc they weren’t bred to have sugars. More glp1ish behavior than cultivated foods too (AFTER ALL PLANTS WANT YOU TO EAT LESS OF THEM)

PlantNet is so good at identifying the edible types…

Why wild fruits can be more “pro-longevity”:

Lower sugars & smaller size → lower glycemic load. Fewer/firmer carbs + more fiber = gentler glucose/insulin response (good for aging metabolism).
More bitter phyto-chemicals (polyphenols). Wild types usually pack higher anthocyanins, tannins, etc., which can activate hormetic pathways (e.g., Nrf2/AMPK) linked to cellular resilience.
Higher fiber per calorie. More skins/seeds = slower absorption, better satiety, improved microbiome metabolites (SCFAs).

Bicep · September 16, 2025, 4:50pm

Is that a Medlar? I planted one once and it couldn’t make it through the midwest winter.

julianj1 · September 17, 2025, 9:01am

Could you tell us their names please.

AlexKChen · October 11, 2025, 11:04pm

Quantitative defenses are chemicals that are not immediately toxic to consumers but become more effective through repeated exposure; that is, they work best as they accumulate in a caterpillar’s body. The tannins produced by oaks are an excellent example of a quantitative defense. They do not poison a caterpillar when eaten but instead impede protein assimilation. This is a good defense because plant leaves contain very little protein even under the best of circumstances, and leaf-eaters cannot afford to lose any of it because of tannins. Unless caterpillars have developed physiological adaptations to counter the effects of tannins, the more oak leaves a caterpillar eats, the less protein it assimilates from those leaves. In contrast to quantitative defenses, qualitative defensive chemicals are immediately toxic and typically require that caterpillars evolve specialized physiological adaptations, such as the acquisition of particular detoxifying enzymes, before they can eat these compounds without dying. Monarchs, queens, and other members of the Danaus butterfly lineage, for example, can develop on Asclepias milkweeds because they long ago evolved the ability to detoxify, store, and excrete cardiac glycosides, the poisonous compounds in milkweeds. The point is, it is apparently much easier for insects to adapt to quantitative defenses like the tannins in oak leaves than to qualitative defenses like the cardiac glycosides in milkweeds, or the cyanide in cherries, or the nicotine in tobacco, etc. But again, it is likely that all characteristics of oaks—the large size of their genus and its geographic range, their outsized apparency within ecosystems, and their reliance on more easily circumvented tannins as their primary defense—have contributed to the large number of caterpillar species that rely on oaks for growth and reproduction.

AlexKChen · October 11, 2025, 11:10pm

“”"Because it’s a hobby where nothing talks back, ages gracefully, and rewards patience—three things that the rest of life steadily stops doing after fifty.

Older people get into botany because:

Plants cooperate. Unlike people, they don’t argue politics at dinner or ghost you after one text. They just photosynthesize quietly.
Mortality math. Once you start counting birthdays instead of plans, the idea of nurturing something younger than you feels therapeutic.
Time slows down. Gardening or cataloging plants scratches that need for rhythm without chaos. You water, prune, wait—a miniature model of sanity.
Biology nostalgia. Many retirees were last excited about mitochondria in high school, then rediscover the thrill of saying “angiosperm” without irony.
It’s mindfulness without calling it that. People who think “meditation” sounds woo-woo will spend six hours staring at a fern and call it science.

In short: it’s control, beauty, and peace in a world that keeps losing all three.“”"

RapAdmin · October 14, 2025, 6:25am

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AlexKChen · December 21, 2025, 9:39pm

Learn Your Land YouTube channel…

RapAdmin · December 21, 2025, 10:26pm

Gemini Video Summary:

This analysis examines the botanical, nutritional, and medicinal properties of Stinging Nettle (Urtica dioica) based on the provided transcript from Adam Haritan of “Learn Your Land.”

A. Executive Summary

The presentation provides a comprehensive overview of Urtica dioica (Stinging Nettle), transitioning from its reputation as a nuisance to its status as a high-value nutritional and medicinal resource. The core thesis posits that the plant’s chemical defense mechanism—the sting—should not deter foragers, as simple processing methods effectively neutralize it.

Botanically, the speaker distinguishes between the native North American subspecies, Urtica dioica ssp. gracilis, and the European ssp. dioica. Key identification markers include opposite phyllotaxy (leaves arranged in pairs), coarsely serrated margins, and the presence of trichomes (stinging hairs). These trichomes function as biological hypodermic needles, injecting a cocktail of neurotransmitters (acetylcholine, histamine, serotonin) and acids (formic, tartaric, oxalic). Haritan emphasizes the importance of distinguishing U. dioica from lookalikes such as Wood Nettle (Laportea canadensis), which has alternate leaf arrangement, and False Nettle (Boehmeria cylindrica), which lacks stinging hairs.

Nutritially, stinging nettle is characterized as an exceptionally dense “superfood,” containing up to 30–40% protein by dry mass. It is a potent source of non-heme iron, calcium, magnesium, and notably, vitamin C (providing over four times the concentration found in oranges).

The medicinal segment focuses on three primary areas supported by clinical research:

Benign Prostatic Hyperplasia (BPH): Utilizing the rhizome to alleviate prostate enlargement symptoms.
Allergic Rhinitis: Using freeze-dried aerial parts to mitigate seasonal allergies.
Metabolic Health: Improving glycemic control and antioxidant status (Superoxide Dismutase) in diabetic patients.

Practical application involves harvesting during a specific six-week window in early spring when the plant is less than two inches tall to avoid the sting entirely. For mature plants, the speaker recommends harvesting tender tops and utilizing heat (cooking) or dehydration (tea) to deactivate the trichomes.

B. Bullet Summary

Defense Mechanism: Trichomes act as silica-tipped hypodermic needles that inject a chemical cocktail when broken.
Chemical Profile: The “sting” consists of acetylcholine, histamine, serotonin, and various organic acids.
Subspecies Variation: ssp. gracilis (Native US) has trichomes primarily on the leaf underside; ssp. dioica (European) has them on both sides.
Physical Architecture: Perennial growth reaching up to 6.5 feet, connected via an extensive underground rhizome system.
Leaf Arrangement: True stinging nettle always features opposite leaf arrangement (leaves directly across from one another).
Lookalike Differentiation: Wood Nettle has alternate leaves; False Nettle has no stinging hairs.
Protein Content: One of the highest plant-based protein sources, reaching up to 40% of dry weight.
Vitamin C Density: Contains ~238mg per 100g, significantly outperforming citrus fruits.
Mineral Profile: Exceptional source of non-heme iron, calcium, and magnesium.
BPH Treatment: Multiple double-blind trials support the use of nettle rhizome (root) for prostate health.
Antihistamine Properties: Evidence suggests freeze-dried nettle is effective for seasonal allergic rhinitis.
Glycemic Control: Studies indicate significant reduction in fasting blood glucose and HbA1c levels.
Antioxidant Induction: Consumption increases Superoxide Dismutase (SOD) activity to combat oxidative stress.
Harvest Window: Late March to April is the optimal time for “sting-free” raw harvesting.
Deactivation Methods: Heat (steaming/boiling) or complete dehydration permanently neutralizes the stinging mechanism.
Culinary Versatility: Can be used as a more nutrient-dense substitute for spinach in any recipe.

D. Claims & Evidence Table

Claim	Evidence Provided	Assessment
BPH Alleviation	Cited 3+ double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled trials.	Strong: Supported by clinical gold-standard research.
Diabetes Management	Cited 2016 study on fasting glucose, HbA1c, and lipid profiles.	Strong: Clinical data shows measurable metabolic shifts.
Vitamin C Content	Comparative stats: 238mg (Nettle) vs 53mg (Orange) per 100g.	Strong: Factually verifiable nutritional data.
Allergy Relief	Study of 69 participants using freeze-dried extract; personal anecdote.	Moderate: While clinical, participant size (69) is relatively small.
Protein Content	Claimed 30–40% dry mass.	Strong: Consistent with USDA and botanical data.
Safety of Young Plants	Personal demonstration handling young plants without gloves.	Speculative: Sensitivity varies; “young” is subjective to microclimates.

E. Actionable Insights

Spring Harvesting: Target a 6-week window in early spring (March/April) to harvest plants under 2 inches for the best texture and lowest sting risk.
Rhizome for Men’s Health: For BPH symptoms, focus on the underground rhizome rather than leaves, prepared as a decoction or tincture.
Allergy Management: Use freeze-dried capsules of aerial parts rather than standard dried tea for maximum antihistamine effect.
Metabolic Boost: Integrate nettle broth or cooked leaves into the diet to improve insulin sensitivity and increase SOD antioxidant levels.
Processing for Safety: If harvesting mature summer leaves, always use gloves and scissors; neutralize by boiling for 2+ minutes or drying until brittle.
Identification Check: Verify “opposite” leaf arrangement and “square” stem characteristics to ensure you aren’t harvesting less-potent lookalikes.

H. Technical Deep-Dive

The pharmacology of Urtica dioica is complex. The stinging mechanism involves silicified trichomes that undergo brittle fracture upon contact. The injected serotonin (5-HT) and acetylcholine act as primary irritants to the peripheral nervous system, while histamine triggers the immediate inflammatory “wheal and flare” response.

From a longevity perspective, the up-regulation of Superoxide Dismutase (SOD) is critical. SOD catalyzes the dismutation of the superoxide () radical into ordinary molecular oxygen () or hydrogen peroxide (), serving as a primary defense against mitochondrial decay and protein oxidation. Furthermore, the presence of lignans in the root (rhizome) may inhibit the binding of sex hormone-binding globulin (SHBG) to its receptor, partially explaining its efficacy in modulating BPH.

I. Fact-Check Important Claims

Claim: Nettle has 4x the Vitamin C of oranges.
Fact-Check: Verified. Various studies (e.g., Food Chemistry Journal) confirm nettle ranges from 175mg to 270mg per 100g, while oranges average 50-60mg.
Claim: Nettle reduces HbA1c and fasting glucose.
Fact-Check: Consistent with Literature. A 2013 study published in Clinical Laboratory confirmed significant decreases in blood glucose in Type 2 diabetics using U. dioica.
Claim: BPH symptoms improved by nettle.
Fact-Check: Verified. A 6-month study of 620 patients published in the Journal of Herbal Pharmacotherapy found significant improvement in International Prostate Symptom Scores (IPSS).

RapAdmin · December 21, 2025, 10:30pm

For the management of Benign Prostatic Hyperplasia (BPH) and associated Lower Urinary Tract Symptoms (LUTS)

Based on clinical trial data and pharmacognostical reviews, the following dosage protocols for Urtica dioica root (rhizome) have been established for the management of Benign Prostatic Hyperplasia (BPH) and associated Lower Urinary Tract Symptoms (LUTS).

1. Clinical Dosage Protocols

The efficacy of nettle root is dose-dependent and preparation-specific. Most high-quality trials utilize standardized extracts rather than raw powders.

A. Standardized Extracts (Capsules/Tablets)

Methanol Extract (20%): 600 mg to 1,200 mg daily, typically divided into three doses. This is the most frequently studied preparation in European clinical literature.
Aqueous (Water) Extract: 360 mg daily for up to 6 months.
Combination Therapy: 120 mg of nettle root extract combined with 160 mg of Saw Palmetto (Serenoa repens) twice daily. This combination is often cited as superior to nettle monotherapy.

B. Traditional Preparations

Root Tincture (1:2 or 1:5 ratio): 2 mL to 5 mL, taken three times daily. (Note: A 1:2 tincture provides approximately 500 mg of dry root equivalent per 2 mL).
Decoction (Tea): 4 g to 6 g of dried root simmered in water daily. Infusions (steeping) are less effective for roots; a decoction (boiling the root for 10–15 minutes) is required to extract the lignans and polysaccharides.

2. Technical Mechanisms of Action

The root’s efficacy in BPH is attributed to several non-hormonal pathways that distinguish it from the aerial parts:

SHBG Inhibition: Lignans (e.g., divanillyltetrahydrofuran) in the root bind to Sex Hormone-Binding Globulin (SHBG), preventing it from docking with receptors on prostate cells, thereby inhibiting growth signals.
Aromatase Inhibition: Specific compounds inhibit the conversion of testosterone to estrogen, a process implicated in age-related prostate enlargement.
Anti-Proliferative Effects: Nettle root lectins (Urtica dioica agglutinin or UDA) inhibit the binding of Epidermal Growth Factor (EGF) to its receptor in prostate tissue.

3. Comparative Efficacy & Knowledge Gaps

Metric	Findings	Assessment
IPSS Score	Average reduction of 5.7 to 8.0 points.	Clinically Significant
Peak Flow (Qmax)	Improvement of ~8.2 mL/s vs ~3.4 mL/s (Placebo).	Strong Evidence
Prostate Volume	Modest decrease (~10%) or stabilization.	Moderate/Weak
PSA Levels	Generally no significant change.	Verified Fact

Knowledge Gap: While the root is effective for symptomatic relief (nocturia, flow rate), there is insufficient data to conclude that it can permanently “shrink” the prostate to pre-BPH sizes. Most evidence points to symptom management and growth deceleration rather than reversal.

4. Safety and Contraindications

Duration: Safe for long-term use (trials have extended to 18 months with no increase in adverse events).
Side Effects: Rare; occasionally includes mild gastrointestinal upset or localized allergic reaction.
Monitoring: Does not mask PSA levels (unlike Finasteride), making it a safer option for men undergoing regular prostate cancer screening, as it won’t hide rising PSA markers.

Recommendation for Implementation:
If you are considering integrating this into a longevity or health protocol, prioritize a 20% methanolic extract standardized for lignan content, as this matches the profile used in the most successful Iranian and German clinical trials.

Based on the clinical parameters derived from successful BPH trials (specifically targeting standardized extracts for high lignan/sterol content), I have identified and ranked the leading brands.

The ranking is based on cost per mg of the actual extract (not the “equivalent weight” of the raw herb) to ensure transparency in potency vs. pricing.

Brand Ranking: Cost Per Milligram (Extract)

Rank	Brand & Product	Extract Per Cap	Price (USD/CAD)	Cost per mg	Clinical Alignment
1	Nutricost Nettle Root Extract	750 mg	$12.95 USD	$0.00014	High: 10:1 concentration provides high biomass equivalent.
2	Now Foods Stinging Nettle Root	250 mg	$11.60 USD	$0.00051	Strong: Used frequently in standard clinical dosing protocols.
3	California Gold (EuroHerbs)	250 mg	$9.44 USD	$0.00063	Extreme: Standardized by Euromed, the actual source for many clinical trials.
4	SuperSmart Nettle Root	500 mg	$21.00 USD	$0.00093	High: Specifically marketed for BPH clinical concentrations.
5	Life Extension PalmettoGuard	240 mg	$21.00 USD	$0.00146	Premium: Combined with Beta-Sitosterol (synergistic longevity marker).

Analysis of Leading Candidates

The “Gold Standard” Selection: California Gold Nutrition (EuroHerbs)

While Nutricost is the cheapest, the EuroHerbs line uses Euromed raw materials. Euromed is the specific pharmaceutical-grade manufacturer that supplies the extracts used in the majority of European clinical trials for BPH. If you are seeking to replicate clinical results exactly, this is the most direct path.

The Efficiency Choice: Nutricost

Nutricost provides a 10:1 extract (750mg per capsule). For a longevity specialist, this offers the highest concentration of total biomass equivalent per dollar, though it is not specifically standardized to the same precision as the Euromed extract.

The Synergistic Choice: Life Extension

This product targets the “longevity” pathway by combining Nettle Root with Beta-Sitosterol. This combination addresses both the SHBG-binding mechanism (Nettle) and the 5-alpha reductase inhibition pathway (Beta-Sitosterol), providing a more robust intervention for prostate health and hormonal balance.

Critical Data Note

When purchasing, ensure the label specifies Urtica dioica (Root). Many cheaper brands sell “Nettle Leaf” extracts, which are effective for allergies but lack the lignans (3,4-divanillyltetrahydrofuran) required to modulate SHBG and affect BPH.

Bicep · December 22, 2025, 12:14am

It’s a fairly serious weed here, herbicide works against it but it is a very robust plant.

I eat it throughout spring till it gets too big, usually just raw. Later in the summer they’re good in an air fryer just till barely crisp, maybe a few spices but not bad flavored.

I suppose you could mow them off in the summer and pick the little ones again as they come back up. Never thought of that till now.