I’ll give you the anecdote of my aunt, who was in her 70s, who died recently. While she didn’t die “of Covid” her health never bounced back after her second bout with Covid and while she technically “recovered” from covid, it was the marked beginning of her decline. For some number of older people, they are “recovering” but not without persistent damage to their health, sometimes tipping them into mortality sooner than they otherwise would have.
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That could be another very good explanation. It could also be a number of factors. We don’t know why there are so many excess deaths, but it appears to be a global phenomenon in the Western World.
Poor economies such as Brazil and other S. American countries do not appear to have these excess deaths, so it may have to do with social class. For some reason, the well-off are dying at a faster rate. Maybe COVID and related issues have reduced permanent life expectancy beyond initial deaths.
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FWIW, hospitals have a problem with the patients, so it appears. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/24/opinion/emergency-room-hospitals-violence.html
My limited experience of going to hospitals for blood draws leads me to think that they are like war zones. Working there looks like it’s difficult.
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There is an argument that the disruption of lockdowns to health care in 2020 and 2021 has fed into increasing mortality rates. The problem is, however, that analysing what went on requires someone to do that work without coming to a conclusion that they have already defined.
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The Netherlands keeps on having "unexplained " high excess mortality too. I don’t know it went in other countries or for other areas of medicine in the Netherlands but I assume it is similar but my girlfriend whose an oncologist says that there was only a very slight drop in new cases during the first lockdown in March 2020, which was made up for later and during the entire time, including the first lockdown all treatment went on as normal (which was a nationwide decision made by the dutch association of oncologists).
Numbers here
NKR Viewer (2020 5.8% drop in cases or 7000 less cases on a total of 120000)
Maybe there’s a non vax explanation for the large numbers of large blood clots found in autopsies that were unknown before the vax.
No rise in death rate among the Amish…
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Do you have a source for your claim? Because cardiovascular deaths have been decreasing as can be seen here
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My lying eyes would like to see the vaxed vs unvaxed statistics.
I wonder if the excess deaths is down to the fact that all routine screening was cancelled during the lockdowns so deaths now are as a result of untreated illness that if picked up earlier would have been prevented.
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Or maybe pandemic just aggravated the current disbelief in science and medicine and people just don’t go to doctors anymore “cause it’s all quackery”.
But yes, I also agree that access to healthcare is way worse lately, not just during pandemic but it persists.
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My view on overall health and medicine in western world is that we have been fed wrong information for so long, everything has been one size fits all. Starting with the CDC nutrition guidelines to the wrong advice that doctors give, eat three meals per day and then snack in between meals as if we are being frigging fattened to be slaughtered. Only lately I realized how dangerous eating more than twice daily is, and where on earth is medical community voicing this concern. All people do from the moment they wake up till they go to sleep is just eat. So that is number one issue in western world today. Second, not all people can tolerate certain foods that well, and the garbage that we should eat plant only needs to stop. Many people will be crimpled by plant diets alone, and I’m sure some people can’t tolerate meat well either. So, the BS that this food or that food is good for everyone and should be consumed by all needs to stop also.
Another problem we have post covid I think is that the virus has some lingering capabilities in one way or the other, plus the vaccines have side effects (as clearly spelled in small print) obviously they don’t affect everyone the same but there is no denying that some people have pretty bad adverse side effects.
All these together I think have made for a sicker and less healthy immune systems in people. The unexpected deaths are here to stay for a while (unfortunately) IMO.
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Your statement is true for the most [part but I think the bigger problem is people have no clue what is healthy and what is not healthy. Frankly for most people everything that they think they know about staying healthy is dead wrong. Going to doctors when you need them is a must, but myself have never been to a doctor in my whole adult life. Obviously, that is not advisable, but I know 100% what is good and what is bad for me and only do the things or eat the foods that I know will keep me healthy. Believe it or not it is that simple. Calorie restriction 1400-1700 daily max unless you burn calories with farm work or prolonged exercise. Never eat more than twice per day. Consume mainly healthy fats, and protein (for me wild fish, organic beef, organic olive oil, organic avocados) and organic veggies and some fruits sparingly. Then do some of the supplements that we all do but always give your body a break being one week per month, or couple days per week or whatever. Yoga also I think is the single best thing you can do for your health, and perhaps even longevity.
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Can you share more about the rationale and any evidence for this?
I often restrict my eating window to only 4-6 hours and fast the other 18-20 (and when not I almost always do at least 8/16). But I had not thought it matters if I eat two or three times during that window - or even added a fourth (healthy) snack in between.
We have had a huge increase in fentanyl overdose deaths in my area and I suspect it is worldwide. Fentanyl is cheap and ten times stronger than herion.
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What you are doing (intermittent fasting) is even better. And in that case it doesn’t matter how many times you eat in that 4–5-hour window. The point I was making is to at least ski[p breakfast so that you give your body a good 14-16 hour rest.
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Nope, those are US problems but excess deaths are a problem throughout the western world
@scta123 scta123
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So California nurses from a source called vaccineimpact.com vs the SOA Research Institute comparing all cause mortality for the entire US, who to trust more?
Can you perhaps link me to infowars of breitbart for more independent verification of the claims made in your link?
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Children’s Health Defense is an American 501(c)(3) nonprofit activist group mainly known for anti-vaccine disinformation and has been identified as one of the main sources of misinformation on vaccines.[
I’m honestly not sure whether you people are truly this easy to fool or if agiators are attempting to cause health damage to the forum members.
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