One more article on that topic: China’s Other Olympics
At the Olympics of synthetic biology, 50 percent of the teams are Chinese — and counting. What does that mean for the future of the biotech industry?
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The thing is the Chinese has the mentality of playing a 100-yr long game as corp here are mostly short term driven.
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Do Chinese have any equivalent of Wormbot or NIA ITP?
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Not that I have heard of. But i haven’t studied it in depth. Perhaps review this White Paper on China’s Longevity Medicine and Anti-Aging Industry (Chinese Version) 中国长寿医学与抗衰产业白皮书
SARs leaked from a beijing lab as well
i am wondering seriously if these chinese will finally succeed in killing the world next outbreak they leak…
its just crazy.
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Fear not, chances are they will also be the ones producing the cure, since they’re a manufacturing powerhouse.
the level of science in china is very low, especially medical science
during covid their vaccines were crap compared to pfizer and moderna
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I wouldn’t generalize, and I think your views probably missing out on the true state of things in China. They produce most of the active pharmaceutical ingredients that all drug companies use… and they are now coming out with many more drugs, faster, than the USA. They are growing rapidly. There are more and more partnerships with Chinese firms, and licensing from Chinese biotech. Their development cycles are much faster than ours.
Their R&D is very strong now, especially in certain target areas.
See these articles:
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Its the usual commie propaganda that hasnt changed even as mao was starving 50m to death they were saying they were overtaking the usa…hah.
Covid was only 4y ago and u can see their response was totally unscientific spraying disinfdctant on streets, locking people in apts, producing shoddy vaccines, etc.
A lot of the science they produce are also fake or fudged, this is well known, that compared to say the usa or singapore, in china many papers are deliberately fudged.
Many of the public hospitals are dispensing fake vaccines also.
The above is just my opinion and some facts.
Its true that if one is a rogue scientist or crazy guy who wants to edit genes then china is definitely a ton easier to play around freely than the usa or any developed nation though
Lol cope harder.
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From today’s JP morgan healthcare conference 2026 in San Francisco:
“This premier conference is the largest and most informative healthcare investment symposium in the industry, which connects global industry leaders, emerging fast-growth companies, innovative technology creators and members of the investment community.”
https://www.jpmorgan.com/about-us/events-conferences/health-care-conference
Source: https://x.com/nimivashi15/status/2011185105784750098?s=20
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Yes, it’s obvious to anyone in the field that China is very quickly rising in pharma. It doesn’t erase past massive failures nor does it mean that all Chinese research is good (there’s a lot of crap produced by Tier 3 institutions), but the Tier 1 Chinese labs are seriously challenging Western companies. And that’s good for all of us.
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There are no real tier 1 research labs in china haha…maybe u can argue for a handful
In japan korea sg aus usa can europe we are talking hundreds if not thousands
How u gonna get tier 1 labs when:
U cannot get tier 1 researchers
Ur chemicals are wonky…supplier gives u fakes…middleman switches them for fakes for profits…staff inhouse doing the same…acctant stealing ur money…labs stealing yr research
Patent protection is non existent…u can walk down the cbd of the biggest cities and see fake nikes addidas prada
Even getting drinking water is hard…50% of bottled water in beijing is fake…
Even macdonalds failed to secure its food chain in china…their supplier shanghai husi was using rotten meat and faking the records etc
Sorry for the reality…thats how we got covid leaking from a wuhan lab…
Do you realized that the best doctors killed the most patients… LOL … if you want a greenhorn… that is fine. Have you actually been to China?
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For the rest, there are maybe better forums and social media more suitable for you than this one. You should have a look!
Not on my list, too polluted and unsafe.
HK yes, but they dont really want to be same family as the commies anyway.
Science in the usa is about 100,000,000 times better than china for sure
2025 Nature Index, Chinese institutions now occupy 9 of the top 10 positions globally: Institution rankings | Nature Index
2025 Nature Index, Leading 200 science cities: Leading 200 science cities | | Supplements | Nature Index
Cities among the top 200:
- (European Union (EU): 55)
- United States of America (USA): 48
- China mainland: 41
- Germany: 20
- United Kingdom (UK): 10
- Japan: 8
- France: 7
- Canada, Netherlands, Australia, India: 6
- Switzerland: 5
- Italy: 5
- Israel, Sweden, South Korea: 4
- Belgium, Spain: 3
- Taiwan, Denmark: 2
- Singapore, Austria, Ireland, Brazil, Norway, Poland, Saudi Arabia, Czech Republic, Finland, Russia: 1
How many of those nature indexed papers are fake? Lol…sorry man china is a country of fake data…good luck if ur that naive…their gdp is fake too…their median income of 400 usd is fake too…their water, vaccines, clothes, drugs, apps, games whatever are massively counterfeit…
80% of clinical trials in china are fake … well if the ccp says 80% you might as well assume reality is more like 98%
Chinese Clinical Trials Data 80 Percent Fabricated: Government
A recent survey of clinical trials in China has revealed fraudulent practice on a massive scale, according to a government investigation.
China’s food and drug regulator recently carried out a one-year review of clinical trials, concluding that more than 80 percent of clinical data is “fabricated,” state media reported.
The scandal is the result of “breach of duty by supervision departments and malpractice by pharmaceutical companies, intermediary agents and medical staff,” the State Food and Drug Administration (SFDA) said in its report.
The review looked at data from 1,622 clinical trial programs of new pharmaceutical drugs awaiting regulator approval for mass production, according to an expose in the Economic Information Daily newspaper.
More than 80 percent of applications for mass production of new drugs have been canceled in the light of the findings, with officials warning that further evidence malpractice could still emerge in the scandal.
According to the SFDA report, much of the data gathered during clinical trials were incomplete, failed to meet analysis requirements or were untraceable, the paper cited a source in the agency as saying.
It said some companies were suspected of deliberately hiding or deleting records of adverse effects, and tampering with data that did not meet expectations.
Fakery China’s open secret
The scandal came as no surprise to industry insiders, however.
“Clinical data fabrication was an open secret even before the inspection,” the paper quoted an unnamed hospital chief as saying.
It said China’s generic drug industry is plagued with quality problems, hence the need for the manipulation of clinical trials data to meet standards that are high on paper.
Many “new” drugs are simply combinations of existing drugs, while clinical trial outcomes are written beforehand, with the data massaged to fit in with it, the report said.
It singled out third party inspection agencies known as contract research organizations, saying they have become “accomplices in data fabrication due to cutthroat competition and economic motivation.”
Healthcare professional Luo Liang told RFA that the domestic pharmaceutical industry struggles to turn a profit under current conditions.
“The domestic market for Western pharmaceuticals in China is either confined to very straightforward generic products that have been around for a long time … or revolves around joint-venture pharmaceutical manufacture with foreign companies,” Luo said.
“Either that, or Chinese pharmaceutical factories get hold of the formula for certain drugs whose patents have expired,” he said. “There are no new drugs in development in the same way that there are overseas.”
Poor implementation
A doctor surnamed Zhang at a top hospital in the northern city of Xian said the problem doesn’t lie with insufficient regulations governing clinical trials data, but with the failure to implement them.
“There are national standards for clinical trials in the development of Western pharmaceuticals,” he said.
“Clinical trials must be carried out in three phases, and they must be assessed at the very least for safety,” Zhang said. “But I don’t know what happened here.”
Public safety problems in China aren’t limited to the pharmaceutical industry and the figure of 80 percent is unlikely to surprise many in a country where citizens routinely engage in the bulk-buying of overseas-made goods like infant formula powder.
Guangdong-based rights activist Mai Ke said there is an all-pervasive culture of fakery across all products made in the country.
“It’s not just the medicines,” Mai said. “In China, everything is fake, and if there’s a profit in pharmaceuticals, then someone’s going to fake them too.”
That’s a 2016 article from the US government’s propaganda outlet 
Things have changed…
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