Most valuable to know. Do you know if there are cases of this effect happening suddenly and greatly already in the first cycle, without advance warning as you had in your first two cycles?
Reading up, my impression is that severe side effects are very rare with most peptides but it seems BP-157 is an exception. Judging by what you indicate, it’s not very rare.
Yes, there are a lot of stories of people experiencing this their first time. Usually it reverses after a few days to weeks, but there are also stories of it persisting.
Some dismiss it as purely psychological, but since there’s a known mechanism I don’t think it’s that easy to disregard.
Nasal bromantane is good to have on hand, I think, just in case. It works wonders.
BP-157 is a strong peptide. Many reports of great results, e.g. with fast healing.
Anecdotal reports of anhedonia being cured, in particular for people addicted to opiates and stimulants. Apparently rewires neurotransmitters.
What scouting the internet also reveals is that paradoxically this rewiring can also cause anhedonia in rare cases. I would not have believed it, if not AgentSmith and Tim had reported it from this very forum.
Nasal bromentane works wonders but I assume there is no guarantee that it will fully roll back anhedonia if this should strike…
Yes, it and MAOIs like 9-me-bc seem to help stimulant abusers (anecdotally), but I’ve never used those.
I developed neurotransmitter problems in 2021 following back to back destruction of my gut microbiome and a COVID-19 infection, and I suspect that’s related to my reaction.
Most will have a positive experience. It’s just something to be aware of when experimenting with it.
Right, the great majority will have positive experiences.
In my own case, a combination of features may tip over to not using those unopened vials. On an SSRI since 25 years, I may have neurotransmitter issues. BPC is angiosenic and I have a metastatic hopefully still dormant prostate cancer. Not having any major wound I was after the other goodies of BPC including GI, plus curious whether injecting into a longlasting ridiculously minor wound - only ill-effect is preventing me doing one specific resistance exercise - would cure it fast. It probably ain´t worth the risk.
Just keeping this valuable and under discussed thread active. We are doing all the above and more peptides AND a round of every organ bio-regulators.
HUGE HUGE benefits from both. Just huge. And a bit expensive. You can’t take it with you.
The latest high quality peptide info is on youtube. Just search. Favorite channels of trusted latest are:
Hunter Williams, Jay Campbell. Very trusted and latest. This is 1,3,5 yrs ahead of anyone stuck with a License!!! Always trust the weight lifters, vanity folks to ferret out what actually works with actual dose ranges (they are guaranteed to push it too far and report back). LOL gotta love youtube for latest and useful info. Even researchers post on youtube before their papers get accepted… Its a sad state of affairs.
By chance, my wife had very good results on her face using NEEL, unlike myself. That’s why I mention it here. For that and because in its origin was the purpose of financing Katcher’s team research on E5. But I am afraid no more.
Started BPC-157 and Epithalon yesterday.
I plan on taking them every day unless I see some negative results in my blood work or experience negative subjective results.
Primary objectives, gut health, telomere lengthening, inflammation, and cognition.
I will not measure the telomere lengthening as I don’t have a baseline and will not spend the money on questionable tests that could be better spent on more peptides.
I will have to take a leap of faith as to telomere lengthening
My take on peptides is similar to my take on rapamycin: If you are young I wouldn’t expect you to have any measurable benefits, with the exception that you are targeting a specific problem such as wound healing, or inflammation.
For old people who are like old cars that need a lot of maintenance to keep going, I think peptides can offer many health span benefits which are also likely to have some lifespan benefits.
I spent last Sunday night in the ER with a “spontaneous infection” under my kneecap–spontaneous in the sense that nothing seems to have brought it on. It could be a result of aging. Or I could have failed to thoroughly wipe the vial and the skin before an injection. A 12-day prescription for antibiotics is working slowly.
Are you injecting the epithalon subcutaneously? That’s what most seem to be doing, but I haven’t found any discussion on subQ vs intramuscular. Can we assume subQ works as well? The Khavinson protocol was intramuscular epithalamin.