Oxygen, hypoxia and hyperoxia

Yes, that’s the one. It’s written very broadly with each chapter reading like a review paper. It felt a bit repetitive at times; multiple chapters conclude by calling for more studies to be done, but I suppose that’s expected. I was surprised that it didn’t have much discussion related to free diving as I would think many papers would have been done in that area related to hypoxia. I feel like to get more out of the book, you’d need to find and read some of the studies on specific topics of interest. Overall, it’s good and I enjoyed it and I may re-read it at some point.

The table of contents can be found here:

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Hi, this is quite interesting, don’t know if it has a practical application.
Would love to know if Sherpas have a reduced incidence of Parkinson’s

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Thanks a lot for sharing.

Paper: Hypoxia ameliorates neurodegeneration and movement disorder in a mouse model of Parkinson’s disease 2025

Parkinson’s disease (PD) is characterized by inclusions of α-synuclein (α-syn) and mitochondrial dysfunction in dopaminergic (DA) neurons of the substantia nigra pars compacta (SNpc). Patients with PD anecdotally experience symptom improvement at high altitude; chronic hypoxia prevents the development of Leigh-like brain disease in mice with mitochondrial complex I deficiency. Here we report that intrastriatal injection of α-syn preformed fibrils (PFFs) in mice resulted in neurodegeneration and movement disorder, which were prevented by continuous exposure to 11% oxygen. Specifically, PFF-induced α-syn aggregation resulted in brain tissue hyperoxia, lipid peroxidation and DA neurodegeneration in the SNpc of mice breathing 21% oxygen, but not in those breathing 11% oxygen. This neuroprotective effect of hypoxia was also observed in Caenorhabditis elegans. Moreover, initiating hypoxia 6 weeks after PFF injection reversed motor dysfunction and halted further DA neurodegeneration. These results suggest that hypoxia may have neuroprotective effects downstream of α-syn aggregation in PD, even after symptom onset and neuropathological changes.

@John_Hemming:

Because our RNA-seq and proteomics results showed upregulation of several HIF-dependent genes in the SN of mice breathing 11% O2, it is possible that the beneficial effects of hypoxia breathing are partially mediated via HIF-dependent mechanisms. Alternatively, it is also conceivable that chronic continuous hypoxia breathing prevents and reverses the progression of PD pathology through distinct mechanisms (for example, mitigating brain tissue hyperoxia) from intermittent hypoxia breathing. Our current study provides timely evidence showing robust neuroprotective effects of chronic continuous hypoxia breathing in a mouse model of PD induced by a templated conversion of endogenous α-syn to inclusions. Because chronic continuous hypoxia has been shown to be beneficial also in mouse models of Friedreich’s ataxia41, multiple sclerosis52 and premature aging53, it is likely to be broadly neuroprotective via multiple mechanisms. Further preclinical studies are needed to determine the safety and efficacy of chronic hypoxia breathing, including the optimal concentrations of hypoxic gas mixtures, longer durations of exposure and the effects of hypoxia at different disease stages. These results motivate more research into the effects of chronic continuous hypoxia breathing42, or pharmacological strategies that reduce oxygen delivery54, potentially leading to new therapeutic strategies to prevent and even halt the progression of PD.

In the end it is HIF 1 alpha.

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Rest of the thread: https://x.com/bryan_johnson/status/1952856728112169108

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Reading the paper again, a few interesting bits:

Specifically, PFF-induced α-syn aggregation resulted in brain tissue hyperoxia, lipid peroxidation and DA neurodegeneration in the SNpc of mice breathing 21% oxygen, but not in those breathing 11% oxygen.
Because prior studies showed mitochondrial respiratory chain dysfunction induced by α-syn, and because primary mitochondrial dysfunction can result in tissue hyperoxia, we wondered if the partial pressure of oxygen (pO2) is elevated in the SNpc of our PD mouse model. To our knowledge, no prior study measured brain pO2 in patients with PD or in mouse models of α-syn toxicity. We measured the pO2 in the SNpc using a fiber-optic fluorescence oxygen sensor 6 weeks after intrastriatal injection of PFF or monomer. When breathing 21% O2, mice injected with PFF exhibited higher brain tissue pO2 in the SNpc compared to mice injected with α-syn monomer (Fig. 2c). In contrast, breathing 11% O2 inhibited the PFF-induced increase in brain tissue pO2 in the SNpc. There could be multiple mechanistic explanations for the observed relative hyperoxia, including decreased oxygen consumption by the mitochondrial respiratory chain due to PFF inhibiting MCI.
We hypothesized that local hyperoxia in the PFF-injected SNpc of mice breathing 21% O2 could promote lipid peroxidation. Recent genome-wide CRISPR genetic screens revealed a strong synthetic lethal interaction between mitochondrial respiratory chain inhibition and genetic loss of GPX4, a lipid hydroperoxidase33. Moreover, oncocytic thyroid carcinoma is associated with somatic genetic loss of MCI and is highly sensitive to death from lipid peroxidation34. To test this hypothesis, we measured malondialdehyde (MDA) levels in the SN 6 weeks after intrastriatal injection of α-syn PFF or monomer. In mice breathing 21% O2, those with PFF-induced α-syn aggregates exhibited higher MDA levels in the SN compared to monomer-injected mice (Fig. 2d). In contrast, breathing 11% O2 attenuated the PFF-induced increase in MDA levels in the SN. These observations suggest that hypoxia attenuates lipid peroxidation in the SN after α-syn aggregation by mitigating brain tissue hyperoxia without affecting iron accumulation.
While the precise mechanisms responsible for the toxicity of α-syn aggregates to neurons remain an unsolved problem, many prior studies have shown that PFF-induced α-syn aggregation compromises the activity of the mitochondrial respiratory chain in DA neurons of the SNpc. Because more than 90% of oxygen is consumed by mitochondria, unused oxygen is theorized to accumulate when oxidative phosphorylation is impaired. Classic studies have shown that patients with inherited mitochondrial disease can exhibit tissue hyperoxia because of poor oxygen extraction, especially during exercise. In fact, we previously reported hyperoxia in the vestibular nucleus and striatum of the Ndufs4−/− mice breathing 21% O2. In this study, we uncovered that α-syn aggregation induced brain tissue hyperoxia in the SNpc of mice. It will be interesting to determine whether brain hyperoxia is also a feature of human PD. Although tissue hyperoxia could be a direct consequence of respiratory chain impairment and oxygen use, we acknowledge that there could be other mechanistic bases (for example, changes in vascularity, low neuronal and hence metabolic activity, changes in pH leading to more O2 offloading). Regardless, the brain tissue hyperoxia observed in the SNpc of mice breathing 21% O2 that also had PFF-induced α-syn aggregation supports the notion that high oxygen itself may be mediating the neurotoxic effects of α-syn aggregates.
α-Syn aggregation induces neuronal iron accumulation in the SNpc35. Our RNA-seq results, which revealed upregulation of Tfrc and Fpn by PFF and breathing 11% O2, support the potential role of iron accumulation in PD pathogenesis. Along this line, a recent study using a nonhuman primate model of PD reported that intranasal administration of α-syn PFF increased iron deposition and protein levels of TFR1 (encoded by Tfrc) and FPN in DA neurons in the SN of Macaca fascicularis44. We speculate that the combination of iron accumulation and tissue hyperoxia can jointly lead to neuronal toxicity via Fenton chemistry, which contributes to lipid peroxidation. IRP2 is a key posttranscriptional regulator in the iron starvation pathway including TFR1 and FPN. We previously reported that genetic ablation of FBXL5, the ubiquitin ligase that targets IRP2 for degradation, is tolerated in hypoxia but not normoxia41. Hence, activation of this pathway in normoxia is detrimental. Moreover, recent CRISPR genetic screens and cancer literature revealed that cells with compromised MCI are particularly susceptible to loss of GPX4, the key phospholipid hydroperoxidase that guards against death caused by lipid peroxidation. The inhibition of tissue hyperoxia and lipid peroxidation by breathing 11% O2 for 6 weeks in PFF-treated mice further supports the critical pathogenic role of tissue hyperoxia that is probably induced by mitochondrial dysfunction.
These observations suggest that it is possible to reverse motor and non-motor symptoms even if the treatment is started after LB-like inclusions have accumulated in the SNpc and symptoms become clinically evident, a situation that more closely recapitulates a treatment scenario in human PD. To the best of our knowledge, hypoxia is the only intervention that not only prevents, but also reverses, neurological defects in this model.

Of course, these are animal models (worm and mouse) but it suggests that hyperoxia might be detrimental in PD @John_Hemming so I think that for people with PD HIF activation via intermittent moderate hypoxia might be more beneficial than via intermittent hyperoxia. Or at least, there’s a potential risk that is worth being studied more.

The question with hyperoxia is one of the length of exposure. HBOT tanks tend to give quite a bit of exposure partially because it is such a big exercise.

I think this can probably be recognised with the activation of NF kappa B. I did a summary of the research on this a few years ago.

Of course but my point is: if people with PD are already in a state of hyperoxia then adding more hyperoxia to that is probably not a good idea and hypoxia should be preferred. For people without PD, short-term hyperoxia is probably fine.

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I am not saying you are wrong. Obviously we need to stop PD before all the alpha syn nuclein is created anyway.

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Has this been posted before? Search function doesn’t show it. [!]Caveat: Chinese paper[!]

Depression and Related Factors in Patients with Parkinson’s Disease at High Altitude

“Overall, the rates of PD are higher in Han (69.2%) and Hui (17.6%) immigrants compared with native Tibetans (13.1%) at high altitude.” => Does it mean that Tibetans are genetically protected? Or that lifelong hypoxic exposure is protective? Or that something else that Tibetans do (or don’t do) protects them?

We do know that Tibetans are genetically hypoxia adapted.

Genetic and immune changes in Tibetan high-altitude populations contribute to biological adaptation to hypoxia

Found those:

Presentation of Parkinson’s disease in patients originating of different geographical altitudes (P2.080) 2018

Our findings suggest a younger age of onset of PD in patients originating from less than 1500 m.a.s.l.

See also Acute and cumulative effects of hypoxia exposure in people with Parkinson’s disease: A scoping review and evidence map: Oxygen, hypoxia and hyperoxia - #41 by adssx “Cumulative exposure to hypobaric hypoxia (living high; 7 days; altitude not reported) induced positive effects on motor symptoms (hypokinesia) and perceptions of PwPD (quality of life and living with illness).”

Anyway, I tried hypoxia again yesterday, 16% FiO2. Didn’t notice anything specific. Will try again at 15.5% and maybe lower.

Do you think having a home device for hypoxia is helpful? What is the advantage of having sessions with a nurse?

Session is not with a nurse, it’s just that instead of paying $10k for the device, I pay $50 per session for now to try it. If I’m convinced it’s worth it I’ll buy a device.

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A domestic oxygen concentrator is about GBP 300. That;s w.hat I use to stimulate HIF I understand @adssx 's viewpoint on avoiding hyperoxia.

Yes, intermittent hyperoxia has the massive benefit of being cheap.

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Not just cheap, but very convenient. If normobaric.

Bryan Johnson stops methylene blue, arguing that MB “is making [him] less tolerant of hypoxia”.

https://x.com/bryan_johnson/status/1957542182170337721

https://x.com/bryan_johnson/status/1957542183801913347

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On mtDNA and hypoxia @John_Hemming: