Harold Katcher (the plasmapheresis person) is the most inspiring late bloomer ever

Previously I called Morris Chang inspiring, but he’s way MORE inspiring.

Just covered in sheekay science show too

I think he was born in the 1940s (74 in 2016). Like, even getting into programming when you were born in the 1940s, alone, is inspiring enough for those surrounded by those who learned coding by age 12.

He also seems reasonably “weird-friendly” in all the right dimensions (in the same way that https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-hawthorne-b654b12b?miniProfileUrn=urn%3Ali%3Afs_miniProfile%3AACoAAAZNaD0BWSFhRw0uzv2IjONoYdlLaGmuJak&lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_search_srp_people%3BNrb%2FcJYvST2V7MdRShlJsg%3D%3D is weird friendly)

[he’s not as ageless as Edward O. Thorpe though]

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While I don’t agree with his thinking that aging is fundamentally programmed, Harold is definitely one of the smartest people I have had the pleasure of conversing with. He is incredibly knowledgeable on various aspects of biology. The fact that he is working so hard to solve aging at his age with new methods is very inspiring. I have great respect for him.

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How did you talk to him?

I don’t agree with programmed aging either, but there is something top-down about it (this is also Michael Levin’s approach) that means you don’t have to understand all the details of it in order to have substantial leverage over its direction

It would be nice if his work could move along more expeditiously. Still working with rats, even though only one is alive. His skin cream was promised but hasn’t materialized.

A lot depends upon what “programmed aging” means. If it means that it happens because of the way the genes function in the sense that it is an epigenetic effect then that is different to something which is scheduled.

However, in the way as described here:
http://www.programmed-aging.org/theory-3/Katcher.html

I don’t think it serves a purpose although you can find greater survival of creatures which are capable of responding to changes in the environment even if those genetic changes cause reductions in longevity. There was I think a worm experiment done that looked at this.

I conversed with Katcher on the GRG research group a while back mainly discussing programmed aging.

I agree

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