Took my TruMe Labs Epigenetic methylation spit test this morning. And, my GlycanAge inflammation level blood test this morning.
I sent both out by USPS. Circle back in 4 weeks for results.
Let’s see if HGH has helped slow or reverse my chronological aging.
wow that’s very cool!
Well the older you are, the better. Hard to say what age is too young but knowing what I know, I’d say 30 and up would be a logical age to start if we are talking minimum age.
How much does monthly treatment cost? I am assuming this is all our pocket as there is no way insurance is covering it.
Pharacuetical grade from a physician’s prescription can be $2,000 to $3,000 a month. When I checked about being part of Dr. Fahy’s TRIIM programs was the same range. Yeah…NO!!
Wait don’t pass out - like getting rapamycin from India there are sources ( I have used two) and cost has been $100 a month - that would cover 3.3 iu nightly injections for 30 days in a row. Much better. You purchase peptides/powder which you reconstitute with bacteriostatic water (cheap stuff) You will need to pay in bitcoin or equivalent payment. I will PM you those sources that I received by a knowledagle HGH user on this site. Lucky for us he did months of research on it.
I don’t think there’s good evidence to answer this, but this is my take above: In terms of best age to start therapy my best guess is to look at when thymus function decline accelerates.
“Thymic involution is associated with increased susceptibility to many diseases, including cancer, infection, and autoimmunity”
So looking at cancer and autoimmunity incidence, and also vaccine response… late 40s would probably be sensible. Fahy started on himself at age 46. The TRIIM trial was targeted at 50 to 65 year olds
Personally Im waiting for Fahy to spill the beans /patent on his new 90 day protocol. It adds a 4th ingredient and saves months of HGH dosing. But I’ve (some) time on my side
A candidate for Fahy’s new thymus regeneration protocol?
A @John_Hemming post alerted me to melatonin as a thymus regeneration candidate.
Could melatonin be the secret ingredient that allows Fahy to regenerate a thymus in just 90 days of HGH + DHEA + melatonin?
The reversal of age-associated thymic involution by melatonin added further support to the concept that melatonin can be a potential therapeutic agent for correcting immunodeficiency state associated with aging and possibly other immunocompromised states like severe stress
Melatonin, immune function and aging | Immunity & Ageing | Full Text.
Does anyone happen to know HGH and DHEA dose that Fahy is using?
I think your guess for melatonin being the secret ingredient is probably a very good guess.
I hope it is melatonin… been using it nightly since covid outbreak in 2020.
I listened to several of his Youtube interviews – easy to find. Search: Fahy Thymus. Based on interviews I think he was giving 2 iu - 3 iu for 4 days with a 3 day break. On the DHEA - I get mine at WalMart and have been taking two 50 mg pills with my nightly shot. So 100 mg total, so far no diabetic issues - but, he also says if you are in shape and work out - likely wouldn’t need DHEA.
Also, by taking HGH at night mimics the natural release you typically get. He also uses Metformin - I do not - can’t tolerate it. I use Acarbose.
I still think Kaeberlein"s interveiw was the most recent and best.
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj45rcfzrbM
Love it!
Just looking at dosing - the study I ref’d gave about 75ug a day of melatonin. Which (i think) is equivalent to about 3g/d for a 70kg person. So @John_Hemming level dosing.
This is a head scratcher because DHEA-S levels still appear to decline regardless of exercise
@Agetron did you mention your HGH dose anywhere? You might have but there is a lot to search through here.
I use 2.5iu before bed every night.
I had thought his secret ingredient was the amino acid carnosine as that rejuvenates the Thymus.
Greg Fahy discusses his daily stack toward the end of this video.
Magnesium
Vitamin D
Vitamin K2
Turmeric
Lycopein
Co-Enzyme Q10
Centrophenoxine
NR or NMM
Sialgeoline
Omega-3
Selenium
Zinc
Carnisine
Copper
Life Extension Mix ( * Trimethylglycine (TMG/Betaine anhydrous) – 100 mg
He also mentions the peptide Thymulin and one of the reasons he takes Zinc to support it. However, he doesn’t directly state that he is taking Thymulin or thymus related peptides, but does discuss adding Thymosin Alpha 1 to boost immune function during the trials in the future.
This wasn’t much a secret because he always said he does take carnosine. He’s been elusive on other stuff, but it appears he’s opened up the list at above interview that @touringsedan posted.
Yep…
You would think. But, Fahy says otherwise in his interview with Matt Kaeberlein. See below.
Funny… by the end of the program… Kaeberlein is all but signing on for his own Thymus regeneration using HGH.
The interview also points out Fahy doesn’t know much about rapimyacin and off label dosing norms.
Dr. Greg Fahy: Thymus Regeneration & Boosting The Immune System For Long…
Link: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Xj45rcfzrbM&si=msZGaEvV4AeEdu6L
My dose is 3.3 iu nightly.
That is one peptide vial every 3 days. With 10 vials per box… so 30 days total for $100 a month. Not bad.
Going to dose for 12 months if biological age tests are improved. Just sent those in.
I’ve wondered if Fahy’s Gen 2 thymus regimen includes MK-677 (ibutamoren). As a GH secretagogue, it promotes thymic growth via the same pathway as GH, but also acts as a ghrelin receptor agonist. Since ghrelin also promotes thymic growth, this could work more potently than GH alone, while also being much cheaper, more convenient, etc.
