GPT-4o on Senolytics

Just for fun and because a colleague sent me a recent paper on some new research, I queried GPT-4o on current status. I have a few structural preconditions programmed into my queries that eliminate much of the junk common to open inquiries.

QUESTION
Identify the interventions for which the theoretical and clinical research-based evidence is greatest for targeting and eliminating senescent cells. Organize the evidence according to current assessments of its strength.

RESPONSE
Targeting and eliminating senescent cells, a process known as senolysis, is an area of intense research in aging and age-related diseases. Several interventions have been explored, with varying levels of theoretical and clinical support. Below is an organized overview of these interventions, ranked by the strength of current evidence:

1. Senolytic Drugs

a. Dasatinib and Quercetin (D+Q)

  • Evidence Strength: Strong
  • Theoretical Basis: Dasatinib, a tyrosine kinase inhibitor, and Quercetin, a flavonoid, have been shown to selectively induce apoptosis in senescent cells. The combination targets different senescence markers and pathways.
  • Clinical Evidence: Multiple preclinical studies in mice have shown that D+Q can extend healthspan and reduce age-related conditions. Early-phase clinical trials have shown potential benefits in humans, such as improved physical function in individuals with idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis.

b. Navitoclax (ABT-263)

  • Evidence Strength: Moderate to Strong
  • Theoretical Basis: Navitoclax inhibits BCL-2 and BCL-XL, proteins that help senescent cells evade apoptosis. By blocking these pathways, Navitoclax induces cell death in senescent cells.
  • Clinical Evidence: Preclinical studies have demonstrated efficacy in reducing senescent cell burden and improving healthspan in animal models. Clinical trials are ongoing, with preliminary results suggesting a reduction in senescent cell markers in human subjects, but with concerns about side effects like thrombocytopenia.

c. Fisetin

  • Evidence Strength: Moderate
  • Theoretical Basis: Fisetin is a flavonoid with senolytic properties, believed to act via pathways that involve the reduction of pro-survival signaling in senescent cells.
  • Clinical Evidence: Animal studies have shown that Fisetin can reduce senescent cell burden and improve health parameters. A small pilot study in humans suggested it may reduce senescence-associated markers, though larger, more rigorous trials are needed.

2. Genetic and Molecular Approaches

a. FOXO4-DRI (FOXO4-p53 interference peptide)

  • Evidence Strength: Moderate
  • Theoretical Basis: FOXO4-DRI disrupts the interaction between FOXO4 and p53, leading to the induction of apoptosis in senescent cells without affecting non-senescent cells.
  • Clinical Evidence: Preclinical studies in mice have shown that FOXO4-DRI can reduce senescent cell burden and improve physical function. Human trials have yet to be conducted, but the targeted mechanism provides a strong theoretical basis.

b. Senescence-Targeted Vaccines

  • Evidence Strength: Emerging
  • Theoretical Basis: Vaccines targeting senescence-specific antigens aim to enhance the immune system’s ability to recognize and eliminate senescent cells.
  • Clinical Evidence: Research is mostly in preclinical stages, with some promising results in animal models showing that such vaccines can reduce senescent cells and improve health outcomes. Clinical trials are not yet available, making this an emerging area of interest.

3. Lifestyle and Nutraceutical Interventions

a. Caloric Restriction and Fasting

  • Evidence Strength: Moderate
  • Theoretical Basis: Caloric restriction and fasting have been shown to reduce oxidative stress and inflammation, which are associated with the accumulation of senescent cells. These interventions may indirectly reduce senescent cell burden by promoting cellular autophagy and repair mechanisms.
  • Clinical Evidence: Animal studies have demonstrated the beneficial effects of caloric restriction on longevity and senescence. Human evidence is less direct, though some studies suggest benefits for markers of aging and inflammation. However, the evidence is not as robust or direct as for senolytic drugs.

b. Metformin

  • Evidence Strength: Moderate
  • Theoretical Basis: Metformin, an anti-diabetic drug, has been suggested to reduce senescence indirectly by lowering inflammation, oxidative stress, and improving metabolic health.
  • Clinical Evidence: While not a direct senolytic, metformin has shown benefits in reducing markers of aging and improving healthspan in both animal models and human studies. The TAME (Targeting Aging with Metformin) trial is ongoing to assess its broader effects on aging-related conditions.

c. Rapamycin

  • Evidence Strength: Moderate
  • Theoretical Basis: Rapamycin, an mTOR inhibitor, can influence cellular aging processes, including senescence, by promoting autophagy and reducing cellular stress responses.
  • Clinical Evidence: Rapamycin and its analogs have shown promise in animal studies for extending lifespan and reducing age-related diseases. Human studies are ongoing, with some preliminary evidence suggesting it may reduce aging-related markers, but its direct impact on senescent cells remains under investigation.

4. Experimental and Emerging Therapies

a. Senescence-Associated Secretory Phenotype (SASP) Inhibitors

  • Evidence Strength: Emerging
  • Theoretical Basis: SASP inhibitors target the pro-inflammatory factors secreted by senescent cells, aiming to reduce the detrimental effects of these cells on surrounding tissues.
  • Clinical Evidence: Most evidence is preclinical, with animal studies showing reduced inflammation and improved healthspan when SASP is inhibited. Human trials are in the early stages.

b. Stem Cell Therapies

  • Evidence Strength: Emerging
  • Theoretical Basis: Stem cell therapies aim to rejuvenate tissues by replacing damaged or senescent cells with healthy, functioning cells.
  • Clinical Evidence: Early-phase clinical trials are exploring the potential of stem cell therapies to reduce senescence and improve tissue function, but conclusive evidence is lacking.

Summary

  • Strong Evidence: Dasatinib + Quercetin (D+Q), Navitoclax.
  • Moderate Evidence: Fisetin, FOXO4-DRI, Caloric Restriction, Metformin, Rapamycin.
  • Emerging Evidence: Senescence-Targeted Vaccines, SASP Inhibitors, Stem Cell Therapies.

The interventions with the most robust evidence, particularly from clinical trials, are senolytic drugs like Dasatinib and Quercetin. Emerging therapies, while promising, require further investigation to establish their efficacy and safety in humans.

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Kill those zombie cells :slight_smile:

Most interesting to me is how far down the list rapamycin appeared.

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Here are the 2 “early phase” D+Q trials…

Senolytics decrease senescent cells in humans: Preliminary report from a clinical trial of Dasatinib plus Quercetin in individuals with diabetic kidney disease

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/ebiom/article/PIIS2352-3964(19)30591-2/fulltext

Senolytics in idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis: Results from a first-in-human, open-label, pilot study

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/ebiom/article/PIIS2352-3964(18)30629-7/fulltext

Note the type or format of the Q - liposomal, (anytime you see lecithin referenced in relationship to a compound, it’s because that is what is commonly used to make liposomes) note the qty, convert that liposomal to “regular” Q and you will find they are using the equivalent of 12,000mg of normal Q, not 500 mg, not 1000 mg. It’s an extremely high dose in a very short pulse.

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Thank you for posting @Steve_Combi. These are interesting studies. Hopefully they will lead (or have already led) to initiating better studies.

I have been reviewing non-Rapamycin options following my decision stop taking it for the time being.

The main driver of my decision to stop was my diagnosis and subsequent excision of a squamous cell carcinoma embedded in a very small mole. Prior to taking Rapa, this mole had remained in an unremarkable state for my entire adult life. Even after the diagnosis, I was willing to persist with Rapa until my dermatologist shared recent disruptive evidence suggesting that up to 10% of SCCs of the dermis and epidermis can metastasize to the lungs and elsewhere under conditions of suppressed immune function. She theorized that a few atypical cells could get their start in even a few days of suppression such as you might see with a single dose of Rapa on a weekly basis. Too many, this is not quite a ground zero case against periodic doses of Rapa but it is close enough to lead me to back off for a while. It was interesting to note that GPT-4o ranked several interventions above Rapa in relation to my prompt.

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Have you looked into the TRIIM and TRIIM-X studies?

Reversing thymic involution may be one of the more effective ways of improving the immune system. Having a healthy and balanced immune system is pretty good way for the human body to deal with emerging cancers.

I asked my new friend https://www.asklongevitygpt.com/ this question, “does the immune systems ability to deal with cancer change with age” the answer is long so here are 2 snippets from the reply.

The Aging Immune System and Its Ability to Deal with Cancer

Overview

The immune system plays a crucial role in identifying and eliminating cancer cells. However, the efficiency of the immune system declines with age, a process known as immunosenescence. This decline can affect the body’s ability to detect and combat cancer effectively.

Summary

The ability of the immune system to deal with cancer declines with age due to various factors, including thymic involution, T cell and B cell dysfunction, reduced NK cell activity, and impaired antigen presentation. These changes increase the risk of cancer development and progression in older adults. Strategies to enhance immune function in aging populations include tailored immunotherapies, cancer vaccines, lifestyle interventions, and nutritional supplementation.

BBB_and_senescence

Abstract

BBB dysfunction during aging is characterized by an increase in its permeability and phenotypic alterations of brain endothelial cells (BECs) including dysregulation of tight junction’s expression. Here we have investigated the role of BEC senescence in the dysfunction of the BBB. Our results suggest that the transition from young to aged BBB is mediated, at least in part by BEC senescence.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/acel.14270?campaign=wolearlyview