Crémieux: Viagra for Life Extension Does it work? I'm doubtful

Here it is: Viagra for Life Extension - Cremieux Recueil

In particular, it includes two MR on AD:

So PDE5i probably useless for AD but not harmful (second paper seems better). For LBD: TBD.

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Regular use of PDE5 inhibitors is associated with an overall 1.85-fold increased risk for a composite of ocular adverse events, specifically increasing the incidence rate of serous retinal detachment by 2.58 times, ischemic optic neuropathy by 2.02 times, and retinal vascular occlusion by 1.44 times.

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I’m starting to lose a little bit of faith in PDE5’s. I still think there is benefit overall, but this is one of those rare drugs that causes annoying side effects for me (bloodshot eyes, acid reflux, and nasal congestion).

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In the article, he says it lowers Lewy body dementia in genetically reduced PDE5 folks but the study says increased risk HR 1.32 so I’m confused

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Very good point. I commented below the post, hopefully he’ll see and edit: Comments - Viagra for Life Extension - Cremieux Recueil

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Curious to see if he responds. Unless we are missing something, he must’ve just read it wrong.

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It’s due to Fig. 2 being unclear. The dot that matters is the one in the middle not the last one. But then the result for vascular dementia is not clear either. I asked on X, maybe if people like he’ll be more likely to see who knows: https://x.com/ADssx/status/2061609418773373071

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yes. I’m confused about this and would appreciate clarity

Please comment on Substack and X. The more people comment the more likely we are to get an answer.

I don’t subscribe to X
and,
since I’m technologically challenged,
don’t know how to access your site on Substack.
Could you please send me a link?

You can comment on Crémieux’s Substack here: Comments - Viagra for Life Extension - Cremieux Recueil

What dose are you taking? I take 5mg of Tadalafil and experience no side effects although I did on higher doses.

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5mg gives me all of those side effects. Dropped to 2.5mg and it was better but still enough to give me milder side effects. I will still take it on demand when necessary though.

He answered: “I’m referring to the PDE5A effect (OR = 0.99).”

I think he might be right and the original paper might be wrong.

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Those numbers can certainly sound a bit scary, but what are the baseline risks?

If I (hypothetically) can trade off a 2.02 increase in ischemic optic neuropathy for a 2.02 decrease in heart attacks, that’s probably a good trade-off overall, since heart attacks are much more common.

So I don’t really like the focus on only odds ratios unless we can also think about the baseline incidence. (And ideally, we all individualise those for ourselves. Somebody with overt CVD like a positive calcium score might weigh cardioprotection more heavily.)

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I fit right in this demographic. At 81, CAC = ~400, 5mg tadalafil qd, I’ve recently developed a ‘macular pucker’ ( epiretinal membrane ) in one eye. Related to tadalafil use? No idea; OD said it’s not uncommon for ‘the elderly’ = me. Probably stay consistant with @relaxedmeatball’s logic and ‘stand pat’ with tadalafil use.

How long have you been taking it for?

Maybe 3-4 years. Eye issue started about 3 months ago. Also taking rapa for several years. 5mg/gfj q2w for last couple years.

I’m actually pretty simplistic about why I take tadalafil every day. My basic logic is that vasodilation is good for longevity. Same reason I really like being in the sun, because it triggers release of nitric oxide and vasodilation. Also, as a 60 year old, I find it helps keep tone in my nether regions for urination and erections.

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