From a PR point of view PA has not dealt with this:
https://www.twitter.com/JohnOleske/status/2018359363518280065
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From a PR point of view I don’t think he has to explain much. His response dug him a way deeper hole than anything contained in those docs. He wrote a novel (clearly a weakness signaling response), yet explanations for these matters should never be more than a couple paragraphs. Huge failure in his part.
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I don’t think you are right about this. From a PR point of view you need to kitchen sink it. That is to deal with all the issues that are raised.
What you don’t want are new issues raised that you have not dealt with.
He is likely to find that some of his staff start walking.
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I really hope Peter has close friends and family around him right now who can look out for him. Given how candid he’s been about his struggles with mental health, it’s understandable to worry about how this kind of pile-on might affect him. Humanity and kindness go a long way, especially when everything feels like it’s crumbling around you.
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Humans have a sick fetish when it comes to cheering for the downfall of successful people. I thought Peter’s X post was perfectly fine and explained things in a satisfactory matter. I do not think he is some sort of child molestor based on those emails. I think it is very lame how quickly other doctors/influencers were so quick to form a mob to pile on him and Eric Topol’s response was in very poor taste. I’ll retract this if it’s proven he raped little kids or cheered on Epstein for doing it but I just don’t buy it.
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I figured as much from Bryan and I do suspect Aubrey’s contact with Epstein was part of his fervent effort to contact as many rich people as possible to pitch his ideas.
I hope nothing more is unearthed about these two.
As for Attia “I apologize and regret putting myself in a position where emails, some of them embarrassing, tasteless, and indefensible, are now public” He apologizes that this is public, wow. Honestly what a scumbag!
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A balanced view with excellent points, chief of which is don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater because there’s some useful nuggets to be learned from the Attia podcasts regardless of whether or not he’s a dirt bag personally. And at the same time, Gill doesn’t agree with all of Attia’s medical statements and advice.
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Also:
It’s incredibly dangerous to choose health advice based on vibes. Some of the best scientists on this planet, some of the most knowledgeable people when it comes to medicine and health and nutrition, have zero charisma, zero speaking skills, have no platform. You’ve never heard from them. And conversely, some of the most popular figures in health and wellness are complete charlatans who don’t know the first thing about medicine or nutrition and spread dangerous misinformation to millions of people on a daily basis.
e.g. here is a video criticizing Andrew Huberman. I never listen to Huberman (well, maybe 1 video, once), so havent’t bothered to verify; but at least the maker of the video is an investigative journalist:
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I actually do kind of agree with the part about if you really did nothing wrong, you should never apologize. The moment you’ve given an inch to the mob, they jump on you even more, which is exactly what happened after he tweeted that.
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He deserved the dig from Eric Topol after Attia, without naming Eric, made a condescending comment about him… it was very obvious to me at the time…
Luke,
If you thought he explained things in a satisfactory manor, I’ll simply trust you haven’t combed through a lot of the emails which is understandable. Just trust me, he was FOS and hoping people hadn’t read everything.
I do think if someone embraces a child molester, it’s perfectly ok to cheer their downfall. They don’t have to be the actual molester. I’m more concerned with the victims and their need to see that our society is not turning a blind eye to them, once again.
He did do something wrong and he was attacked for his tweet because it was BS. It was not because he took responsibility and told the truth.
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I appreciate that, and thank you.
If I’m understanding you correctly, you want proof that he knew who JE was but still remained friends with him.
In his poor attempt at crisis management, he said:
“In November 2018 I read the Miami Herald investigative article. I was repulsed by what I learned. Nauseated. It marked a clear and irreversible line between what I knew before and what I understood afterward.”
Ok, so if we take him at his word, even if very late, he admits he now understood exactly who JE was after reading the article about his 80 victims.
He was repulsed and nauseated.
Ok so if this were you, if you now realized your friend was a pedophile on an epic scale, and you now saw him clearly, would you send him an email mentioning your work stress, mentioning home was good, and asking him what the fallout for HIM was from that story?
I don’t think there is a chance that is what you would email to this person who now repulses you. To me, that is, I know who you are, and we are still buds.
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@Kelman I tagged you in the post I made earlier today with the correspondence Dec 4 2018
And yeah, to me that was the most damning email. And it’s why his tweet made it all worse. It also makes other things he mentioned ring less true than they already did…
The ol’ I only meant I couldn’t tell people about his life because the rich and powerful keep it all on the DL. My eyes rolled out of my head. That was his response to a photo and not a discussion about a dinner with foreign leaders, for crying out loud. Being rich and powerful is not fight club… they name drop with the best of them… does he think we believe Bill Gates does not go home and say I had dinner with the CEO of xyz
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Well, Attila’s co-author (of Outlive), Bill Gifford, has expressed his thoughts…
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I’d be interested what research he was funding as well. Looking through Epstein’s emails he did seem to have a cursory interest in longevity.
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On his latest twitterX post Attia describes the “fresh shipment” as metformin. I find it odd phrasing. Metformin is as common as table salt, cheap, super easy to obtain. Suppose it was a purchase of aspirin or rosuvastatin? Would anyone say “I got a fresh shipment of aspirin” or “I got a fresh shipment of my statins?” Using the term fresh shipment for common non-perishable items is odd and I can’t see myself using such phrasing, ever, it would be a type of “mis-communication” I might use it for an elite olive oil, or blueberries, or a refrigerated medicine (glp1?) but I’d never describe metformin in such “elite” terms. So I am not convinced by his explanation. Why would you bother telling a man you adored and wanted to impress that you got some metformin, who cares, not impressive, plebeian, low class, not impressive or even interesting. I searched but could not find the initial email with the picture of metformin, if it exists on the FBI site, I stand corrected.
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But what else could Attia provide the likes of Epstein other than prescription medicine?
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