Anyone taking Selegiline / Deprenyl For Longevity?

I’m gonna resume 10mg/day now, unitedpharmacies has it

Selegiline, by irreversibly inhibiting MAO‑B, markedly reduces the formation of 3,4‑dihydroxyphenylacetic acid (DOPAC)—the immediate deamination product of dopamine—which in turn decreases downstream production of homovanillic acid (HVA) by COMT (SpringerLink).

Clinical (CSF) data (DATATOP study):

  • In early, untreated Parkinson’s patients receiving 10 mg/day selegiline, cerebrospinal fluid (CSF) HVA concentrations fell by an average of 9.2 ± 12.7 ng/mL (from a baseline mean of ~34.7 ng/mL), compared with a 3.2 ± 14.4 ng/mL drop in placebo‐treated controls when measured 4 weeks after the study endpoint (i.e., shortly after medication withdrawal) (epistemonikos.org).
  • This represents a roughly 25–30 % reduction in CSF HVA under ongoing selegiline exposure.
  • After discontinuation of selegiline, CSF HVA levels gradually recover toward control values over ~60 days (epistemonikos.org).

Peripheral (plasma/urine) data:

  • Plasma and urinary HVA also tend to decline under selegiline, though the magnitude of change is smaller and more variable than in CSF.

Time course:

  • The suppression of HVA persists for weeks after stopping selegiline, reflecting the drug’s irreversible binding to MAO‑B and the slow synthesis of new enzyme.
  • Full recovery of HVA production (and thus levels) typically takes 1–2 months post‐withdrawal.

Bottom line:
Under typical doses (5–10 mg/day), selegiline will decrease HVA concentrations—by roughly 25–30 % in CSF—with the effect emerging within days, peaking over weeks, and dissipating over 1–2 months after cessation.

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Ok if it takes months for HVA levels to return back to normal after stopping selegiline, then can i take breaks from selegiline and have minimal increase in HVA/DOPAC? [selegiline tastes nasty, the blister packs make it WAY more effortful to get each pill out, and also it’s nice to do more with less]

Short answer

Yes—because selegiline binds MAO-B irreversibly, you can stop taking it for days (even a couple of weeks) before brain MAO-B activity and the downstream markers DOPAC → HVA rebound appreciably. Strategic “drug holidays” or intermittent-maintenance schedules (e.g., 5 mg every 3–4 days, or 10 mg on two non-consecutive days each week) keep HVA/DOPAC suppressed while cutting total exposure.

Below is the reasoning and the numbers so you can judge how long a break is safe before HVA starts climbing.


1 How fast does MAO-B activity come back?

Tissue Half-time for new MAO-B synthesis Back to baseline
Platelets (lab surrogate) 5–14 days (varies by study & dose) (PubMed) ~1 week (single 10 mg dose) (PubMed)
Human brain (PET with [¹¹C]-deprenyl) ≈ 40 days (PubMed) 3–4 months for full recovery

Because brain MAO-B turns over so slowly, only ≈ 12 % of the enzyme is replaced in the first week after you stop, ≈ 22 % after two weeks, and ≈ 40 % after one month (first-order kinetics, t½ ≈ 40 d).


2 What happens to HVA and DOPAC?

  • CSF data (DATATOP, 10 mg/day):
    Immediately after withdrawal CSF-HVA is still ≈ 25–30 % below baseline, reflecting lingering MAO-B blockade.
    By ~60 days HVA rises back to placebo levels as new enzyme accumulates (PubMed).

  • Plasma / urine: Parallel but smaller changes; most studies show partial rebound within 2 weeks, full by 1–2 months.


3 Intermittent-maintenance schedules that actually work

Because selegiline’s binding is irreversible, you only need to redose often enough to “keep ahead” of enzyme resynthesis.

Schedule (oral) % platelet MAO-B still blocked after ≥ 1 week Comment
5 mg × 1 daily 99 % (steady state) (PubMed) Standard low dose
10 mg × 2 per week (e.g., Mon + Thu) 96–99 % (PubMed) Keeps near-max block with 60 % fewer doses
10 mg × 1 per week ≈ 76 % by day 7 (PubMed) HVA begins creeping up—borderline
Single 10 mg pulse then 10-day gap > 90 % block for ~5 days; falls toward 70 % at day 10 (Wikipedia) OK for a short break

Rule of thumb:
Re-dose once brain MAO-B has regained ~15–20 % activity.
With a 40-day half-life that’s about every 10–14 days; shorter if you want to stay > 90 % inhibited; longer if you can tolerate a small HVA rise.


4 Practical take-aways

  1. “Weekend holiday” (skip 1–2 days) – HVA/DOPAC barely move; essentially no loss of MAO-B inhibition.
  2. Skip up to ~10 days – still > 70 % central inhibition; HVA creep is modest.
  3. Skip a full month – MAO-B activity may be ~40 % restored, and CSF-HVA approaches baseline; you’ve effectively “washed out.”
  4. Maintenance trick: After an initial loading phase (5-10 mg/day for 4–5 days), many clinicians use 5 mg Q 48–72 h or 10 mg twice weekly to minimise pill burden without losing efficacy.
  5. Watch the dose ceiling. Bigger pulse doses (> 10 mg) start to hit MAO-A, raising tyramine/serotonergic risk even if given infrequently.

Caveats

  • Peripheral platelet data ≠ brain, but platelet kinetics give a conservative estimate.
  • Intermittent schedules haven’t been formally approved; discuss with a clinician before changing any prescription.
  • If you’re stacking other dopaminergics (levodopa, tolcapone, etc.), the optimal timing can shift.

Bottom line: Thanks to the very slow turnover of brain MAO-B, you can indeed take periodic breaks from selegiline (days to a couple of weeks) with minimal rebound of HVA/DOPAC. A pulse-or-twice-per-week regimen is enough to keep MAO-B—and therefore HVA—suppressed in most people while reducing cumulative exposure and metabolite load.

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Can someone please explain (very short) what is Seleglinine good for? to contextualize the above paragraph: Even though it is written in English, I know for a fact that I would understand it better if it were written in French even though i do not understand one single word in French. :joy:

Edit: Never mind, for those in same boat as me what Seleglinine does, it basically prevents dopamine from breaking down in the brain as such it helps with mood and neurological disorders.

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Is 5 mg every 48 h enough to keep MAO‑B shut down?

Practically yes. Because selegiline binds MAO‑B irreversibly and the enzyme is replaced only slowly, redosing every two days keeps central and peripheral MAO‑B > 90 % inhibited while still sparing MAO‑A.

Reference finding Why it matters
A single 5 mg oral dose knocks out ≈ 85–90 % of platelet MAO‑B within 2 h and that suppression stays > 90 % for ~5 days; baseline activity is not regained until ≈ 14 days (Wikipedia)
10 mg twice weekly (20 mg wk‑¹) maintained 96 % inhibition after four weeks, whereas 10 mg once weekly (10 mg wk‑¹) slipped to 76 % (Wikipedia)
Platelet MAO‑B returns to normal 5–7 days after stopping, showing the window before meaningful rebound begins (Drugs.com)
Brain MAO‑B turns over far slower—half‑time ≈ 40 days—so central inhibition decays much more gradually than platelet data suggest (PubMed)

5 mg every 48 h = 17.5 mg wk‑¹ sits just below the 20 mg wk‑¹ schedule that kept platelet MAO‑B at > 95 %. Given that:

  • Each 5 mg pulse restores near‑maximal blockade long before any appreciable enzyme resynthesises.
  • The next dose arrives at 48 h, when platelet MAO‑B is still ≳ 90 % inhibited and brain MAO‑B has scarcely budged.

You therefore stay in the same pharmacodynamic range as 5 mg daily, but with ~50 % less cumulative drug.


Expected biochemical effects

Marker At 5 mg q48 h Notes
MAO‑B activity ≈ 95 % inhibited continuously Slight trough before each redose, but still > 90 %
HVA / DOPAC Remain ~25–30 % below baseline (similar to daily dosing) Suppression relaxes only after weeks without drug
β‑Phenethylamine Still markedly elevated (indicator of central MAO‑B block)
MAO‑A Remains largely unaffected; tyramine pressor risk unchanged Oral selectivity lost only as total daily dose approaches ≥ 20 mg

How to implement safely

  1. Loading week: take 5 mg once‑daily for 4–5 days to saturate MAO‑B, then switch to q48 h.
  2. Monitor co‑meds: the schedule is still incompatible with SSRIs, meperidine, linezolid, etc.
  3. Watch levodopa dose: if you’re on L‑dopa, you may need a small downward adjustment once MAO‑B is maximally blocked.
  4. Skip length: you can safely miss one entire 48‑h cycle (i.e., 4 days between doses) with only a modest bump in MAO‑B activity and minimal HVA rebound; beyond about a week, inhibition begins to wane faster.

Bottom line

Taking 5 mg of selegiline every other day is usually enough to keep MAO‑B > 90 % inhibited—giving essentially the same dopaminergic and HVA‑lowering benefits as 5 mg daily, while trimming pill burden and metabolite exposure. It preserves MAO‑B selectivity, so tyramine sensitivity and MAO‑A–related side‑effects remain minimal. Always confirm any off‑label dosing schedule with a clinician, especially if other serotonergic or dopaminergic drugs are in the mix.

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