UDCA (ursodiol) / TUDCA for healthspan and lifespan?

Ursodeoxycholic acid (UDCA), also known as ursodiol, comes from bear bile and has been used in traditional Chinese medicine since the 7th century. It has been used in Western medicine since 1955 to dissolve gallstones. Ursodoxicoltaurine or tauroursodeoxycholic acid (TUDCA), also known as taurursodiol, is the taurine conjugated form of UDCA.

UDCA failed the ITP: Longer lifespan in male mice treated with a weakly estrogenic agonist, an antioxidant, an α-glucosidase inhibitor or a Nrf2-inducer 2016. However, they noted:

Treatment with the bile acid, UDCA, has been reported to have a wide variety of effects that are compatible with extended lifespan in mammals, including protecting against metabolic derangements such as diabetes, and suppression of tumor formation (Oyama et al., 2002; Lukivskaya et al., 2004). Nevertheless, no previous lifespan studies have been reported for UDCA. At the dose used in this study, there were significant reductions in body weight across the lifespan in both male and female mice, suggesting that UDCA treatment had biological or physiological effects. However, there was no effect of UDCA on median or maximal lifespan in either sex. Given the wide range of positive effects reported for UDCA on measures of healthspan, it is unclear why it had no effect on lifespan. It is possible that higher or lower doses of UDCA may be effective. On the other hand, as we observed with NDGA in the present study, the effects of specific interventions on lifespan may be distinct from effects on age-sensitive physiological changes in specific organ systems.

In males, UDCA treatment showed early protective effects during pre-median lifespan stages but at later ages manifested significant negative impacts: MPD: ITP survival analysis:   ursodeoxycholic acid

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They used 5,000 ppm = 833 mg/kg (mice) => ~67 mg/kg in humans (HED). So, about 5 g/day for the average adult. 67 mg/kg is a lot. UDCA in a dose of 28–30 mg/kg/day increases the risk of death and need for liver transplant by 2.3-fold among those with primary sclerosing cholangitis, despite a decrease in liver enzymes: High Dose Ursodeoxycholic Acid for the Treatment of Primary Sclerosing Cholangitis 2010

The normal UDCA dose for gallstones is about 10 mg/kg, typically 750 mg/day (DDD, according to the WHO).

The prevalence of gallstones is approximately 10–15% of adults in Europe and the US: CKS is only available in the UK | NICE

A recent Chinese paper claims that: Tauroursodeoxycholic acid targets HSP90 to promote protein homeostasis and extends healthy lifespan 2024

TUDCA extends the lifespan and healthspan of C. elegans . Importantly, oral supplementation of TUDCA improves fitness in old mice, including clinically relevant phenotypes, exercise capacity and cognitive function. Consistently, TUDCA treatment drives broad transcriptional changes correlated with anti-aging characteristics. Mechanistically, we discover that TUDCA targets the chaperone HSP90 to promote its protein refolding activity. This collaboration further alleviates aging-induced endoplasmic reticulum (ER) stress and facilitates protein homeostasis, thus offering resistance to aging. In summary, our findings uncover new molecular links between an endogenous metabolite and protein homeostasis, and propose a novel anti-aging strategy that could improve both lifespan and healthspan.

(I’ll try to replicate their findings with Ora Biomedical.)

This Brazilian paper found: The bile acid TUDCA reduces age-related hyperinsulinemia in mice 2022

Here, we evaluated the actions of TUDCA upon glucose-insulin homeostasis in aged C57BL/6 male mice (18-month-old) treated with 300 mg/kg of TUDCA or its vehicle. TUDCA attenuated hyperinsulinemia and improved glucose homeostasis in aged mice, by enhancing liver insulin-degrading enzyme (IDE) expression and insulin clearance. Furthermore, the improvement in glucose-insulin homeostasis in these mice was accompanied by a reduction in adiposity, associated with adipocyte hypertrophy, and lipids accumulation in the liver. TUDCA-treated aged mice also displayed increased energy expenditure and metabolic flexibility, as well as a better cognitive ability. Taken together, our data highlight TUDCA as an interesting target for the attenuation of age-related hyperinsulinemia and its deleterious effects on metabolism.

So, it’s been speculated that UDCA and TUDCA could have neuroprotective effects. However, this year, a combination including TUDCA famously failed in ALS and was withdrawn from the market: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/08/health/als-drug-relyvrio.html

There’s an upcoming trial in Parkinson’s disease using UDCA 2.5 g/day: Parkinson's disease - #342 by adssx This trial follows a small one using 30 mg/kg: A Double-Blind, Randomized, Placebo-Controlled Trial of Ursodeoxycholic Acid (UDCA) in Parkinson’s Disease 2023:

The UP Study has confirmed that UDCA at a dose of 30 mg/kg is safe and extremely well tolerated in PD with no SAEs and only mild, transient side effects reported in the UDCA treatment group (primary outcome). This is reflected by the high compliance rate (mean of 97.6%) of those participants in the UDCA-treated group who completed the full treatment duration.
In contrast, we observed either an improvement in the UDCA treatment group or comparatively less worsening in gait over the treatment period.
The action of UDCA might be pleiotropic and is yet to be fully elucidated. Changes in the PD gut microbiome are associated with alterations in the bile acid pool. Intriguingly, reductions of (endogenous) UDCA and TUDCA have been reported in an experimental model of prodromal PD; in addition, UDCA treatment partially restores the gut microbial profile in other conditions.48-50 A beneficial effect of UDCA in PD may therefore not be limited to mitochondrial rescue but also an additional, as yet speculative, effect on the microbiome and the gut–brain axis.

Some bodybuilders apparently take TUDCA to reduce muscle fatigue and improve performance: Tudca: 5 Key Benefits For Bodybuilders & Liver Support – NutraBio Brands (any thoughts on this @LVareilles?)

Eric Berg doesn’t provide sources but claims that TUDCA has a lot of benefits: Benefits of TUDCA: Benefits of bile salts on gut health :man_shrugging:

What is clear is that UDCA (and TUDCA?) significantly reduce serum liver parameters: alanine aminotransferase (ALT: –15 U/L), aspartate aminotransferase (AST: –16 U/L), gamma-glutamyl transferase (GGT: –23 U/L), alkaline phosphatase (ALP: –94 U/L) and bilirubin (–0.2 U/L): Effect of ursodeoxycholic acid on liver markers: A systematic review and meta-analysis of randomized placebo-controlled clinical trials 2020

It seems that for all-cause mortality, the lower, the better for ALT and AST: Loss of Life Expectancy by 10 Years or More From Elevated Aspartate Aminotransferase: Finding Aspartate Aminotransferase a Better Mortality Predictor for All-Cause and Liver-Related than Alanine Aminotransferase 2019

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Same for GGT: Gamma-glutamyl transferase and risk of all-cause and disease-specific mortality: a nationwide cohort study 2023

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Level of serum GGT was categorized by sex-specific tertiles as follows: low tertile (< 25 IU/L), middle tertile (25–43 IU/L), and high tertile (≥ 44 IU/L) for men and low tertile (< 14 IU/L), middle tertile (14–20 IU/L), and high tertile (≥ 21 IU/L) for women.

Same for ALP? Relation Between Alkaline Phosphatase, Serum Phosphate, and All-Cause or Cardiovascular Mortality 2009

However, another paper found J-shaped correlations: Associations between serum levels of liver function biomarkers and all-cause and cause-specific mortality: a prospective cohort study 2024

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So I wonder:

  • If one has elevated serum liver markers, is (T)UDCA the best intervention?
  • If so, when should one start the intervention? (AST > 40? ALT > 70? ALP > 60?)
  • Is there a case for UDCA or TUDCA beyond liver marker optimization?
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Also, fun fact, Italian exports to China surged in 2023 after reports that UDCA could prevent Covid infections: The off-patent drug that could protect us from future COVID-19 variants


It’s still unclear whether UDCA helps with Covid or not:

It can also used as a gallstone prophylaxis during weight loss which typically increases gallstone formation.

Combining with PUFA (EPA/DHA, in this study Omacor 1 g) seems effective to dissolve gallstones:

Results: Of the 59 screened patients, 45 patients completed treatment (24 and 21 in the monotherapy and combination groups, respectively). The gallstone dissolution rate tended to be higher in the combination group than in the monotherapy group (45.7% vs 9.9%, p=0.070). The radiological response rate was also significantly higher in the combination group (90.5% vs 41.7%, p=0.007). In both groups, dissolution and response rates were higher in patients with gallbladder sludge than in those with distinct stones. Four adverse events (two in each group) were observed, none of which were study drug-related or led to drug discontinuation. The incidence of these adverse events was similar in both groups (combination vs monotherapy: 9.5% vs 8.3%, p=0.890).

Gallstone Dissolution Effects of Combination Therapy with n-3 Polyunsaturated Fatty Acids and Ursodeoxycholic Acid: A Randomized, Prospective, Preliminary Clinical Trial, 2024.

And there is some possibility it’s synergistic with ezetimibe to prevent or dissolve gallstones but it’s speculative:

Ezetimibe: Its Novel Effects on the Prevention and the Treatment of Cholesterol Gallstones and Nonalcoholic Fatty Liver Disease, 2011.

Liver tests should be done as following according to the FDA when using UDCA (I would bet the same with TUDCA):

5.1 Abnormal Liver Function Tests
Liver function tests (γ-GT, alkaline phosphatase, AST, ALT) and bilirubin levels should be
monitored every month for three months after start of therapy, and every six months thereafter.

This monitoring will allow the early detection of a possible deterioration of the hepatic function.
https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2023/020675s028lbl.pdf

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I got the paper, it’s very good:








So TUDCA might be better than UDCA, I’ll try to replicate their findings with Ora Biomedical… Mice were killed to measure various biomarkers so we don’t know the impact of their lifespan.

ChatGPT says that the dose they used in mice (1% w/w) would be equivalent to 10 g/day in a human adult: a lot! That’s about 8 g of UDCA and 2 g of taurine. Could it be that the positive effects are only due to taurine?

Also, 1% w/w means 10,000 ppm, so twice what was used in the ITP (and failed). So are there benefits of TUDCA beyond taurine + UDCA alone? ChatGPT says:

TUDCA is not just “taurine + UDCA”—its conjugation gives it unique properties that enhance its bioactivity and benefits. These include better ER stress reduction, mitochondrial protection, receptor interaction, and antioxidant effects. While UDCA and taurine both contribute to TUDCA’s efficacy, the conjugate form exhibits enhanced therapeutic potential that neither component achieves on its own.

They mainly use UDCA/TUDCA when they take oral anabolic steroids, many of which tend to spike AST/ALT, as a way to minimize potential liver damage. I am unsure how effective it is for that purpose though, since their livers go back to normal once they stop the oral steroids. However, if it does indeed lower those liver markers, then it would be smart to use it while they’re swallowing pills that raise those markers.

I actually was not aware it could reduce muscle fatigue and improve performance. I suppose if it prevents the liver stress, it could help maintain energy levels.

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My wife takes this because of terrible gall attacks. I’ve tried it just because I can’t help myself. They don’t hold down bears any more and extract it. It’s synthesized. Just wanted to get that out there.

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Yes they lower them a lot:

Yes I don’t know if they really reduce muscle fatigue and improve performance, your explanation makes more sense.

Ah yes I forgot to mention that :sweat_smile:

Does your wife take UDCA or TUDCA? Any side effect? Have you felt anything yourself?

She was in serious trouble and her sister too. The doc offered surgery and told her to not mess around with it. She started TUDCA and it pretty much went away. She eats less fat now too, but it’s been months and she has not complained lately. BTW her liver enzymes were climbing too and the doc said it was a sign of NAFLD and that went away too.

After reading your posts I may take a few more.

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Amylyx Pharmaceuticals the company behind the Sodium phenylbutyrate + TUDCA combo for ALS sponsored this recent trial in AD: Biological effects of sodium phenylbutyrate and taurursodiol in Alzheimer’s disease 2024

Led by researchers from Harvard and Oxford. Short (24 weeks) and small (95 participants). No improvement in cognition or total hippocampal volume on MRI but: “exploratory CSF biomarker results provided preliminary evidence that PB and TURSO engages AD pathology and pathways of neurodegeneration, synaptic function, gliosis, and oxidative stress. Along with those from preclinical studies showing a biological effect of PB and TURSO in AD models, the findings of our analysis provide support for further clinical development of PB and TURSO for AD and may be used to inform the design of subsequent trials.”

They used 3 g PB + 1 g TUDCA per day.

Outcomes not statistically significant but the combo is always on the “bad” side (lower is better for all except MoCa and hippocampal volume):

Be aware, if you are considering TUDCA, there are reports of low quality or fake supplements. Not sure if ConsumerLab or others have tested TUDCA, but I would be wary of most brands on Amazon.

Yes a lof of TUDCA brands on Amazon seem terrible. I found that one that looks good: https://vitality-pro.com/product/tudca/ (I tend to trust Vitality Pro)

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I went for Nutricost, it seems like the consensus on reddit is that it’s an okay brand, and it’s selling high volumes on iHerb:
https://www.iherb.com/c/tudca?sr=2

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TUDCA had been on my radar for a while because of this interview.

Pretty interesting discussion on Alzheimer’s and dementia and when asked about one supplement with a ton of potential that no one is likely to have heard of, the neurologist says, very knowingly and without batting an eye, “TUDCA.” It caught my attention because nothing he says in the hour long conversation mentions TUDCA so it was a bit of an open loop. So I researched it and it did seem pretty interesting. Clearly just the tip of the iceberg can be made out so I do wish it had ITP or wormbot data.

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After reading @ActivePassenger’s comment, I avoided Nutricost: Scientists Discover That Taurine Promotes Anti-Aging - #383 by ActivePassenger

Let us know how it goes. How much do you plan to take?

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FYI “quack” is the first suggestion after his name on Google :grimacing:

But I still think TUDCA is interesting. After all, Amylyx Pharmaceuticals has a $400m market cap and is primarily trying to repurpose TUDCA for neurodegenerative diseases (without success so far).

@DrFraser: what are your thoughts on UDCA or TUDCA for:

  • Liver health
  • Overall healthspan and lifespan
  • Neuroprotection
    ?

Other good data point, in this paper (Association of cardiovascular disease management drugs with Lewy body dementia: a case–control study 2023), ursodiol use was associated with a lower risk of LBD (0.69, CI: [0.56–0.82]).

On the other hand, nothing significant in Epiterna’s study: First report from Epiterna on the search for drugs that can extend human lifespan. HR for males: 1.2, CI: [0.6–2.5], p=0.7.

This is a topic with scant evidence and not nearly enough information to act on. Vera-Health on this topic says (and couldn’t find any relevant articles in pub-med). Also I see both DoubleWood and Bulk Supplements have cost effective TUDCA) and are third party tested and reliable brands.

The question regarding the use of Tauroursodeoxycholic Acid (TUDCA) or Ursodeoxycholic Acid (UDCA) for liver health, neuroprotection, and longevity is indeed medically relevant. Both TUDCA and UDCA are bile acids with distinct therapeutic roles.

UDCA is primarily used for liver health, particularly in the treatment of primary biliary cholangitis. It works by reducing the concentration of toxic bile acids, thereby protecting liver cells and improving liver function. UDCA has been shown to improve liver enzyme levels and delay disease progression in certain liver conditions.

TUDCA, a derivative of UDCA, has gained attention for its potential neuroprotective effects. It is believed to reduce endoplasmic reticulum stress and apoptosis, which are implicated in neurodegenerative diseases. Some studies suggest that TUDCA may have benefits in conditions like amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS) and Parkinson’s disease, although more research is needed to confirm these effects.

Regarding longevity, the evidence is less clear. While both TUDCA and UDCA may contribute to improved health outcomes by supporting liver function and potentially offering neuroprotection, direct evidence linking these compounds to increased lifespan in humans is limited. Most longevity studies are conducted in animal models, and their applicability to humans remains uncertain.

In summary, UDCA is well-established for liver health, while TUDCA shows promise for neuroprotection. Both may contribute to overall health, but their direct impact on longevity requires further investigation. Always consider consulting with a healthcare professional before starting any new treatment.

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There are few larger companies that provide CoA’s when asked. I think I prefer a larger supplement company with higher volume compared to a smaller one since if there is any problem it will be detected quicker. Seems like a good heuristic for most things.

I think 500 mg.

In terms of liver health I think there’s enough evidence, no?

For Covid-19 prevention and recovery, the evidence looks good to me as well.

I’m not sure what this term “liver health” means. I know what liver diseases are.
Folks who have no evidence of any liver dysfunction, e.g. INR normal, Ammonia normal, Albumin normal, Transaminases optimal, Alk Phos normal. MRI liver without steatosis. That probably makes up the vast majority of folks on this board.

Taking something for “Liver Health” when there is no issue probably is unnecessary, but there could be other benefits, if the neurocognition component ends up being real.

On the topic just of “Liver Health” here is what Vera-Health says
Tauroursodeoxycholic acid (TUDCA) is a bile acid derivative that has been studied for its potential benefits in liver health. TUDCA is known for its ability to protect liver cells from damage and improve liver function. It works by reducing endoplasmic reticulum (ER) stress, which is a condition that can lead to cell death and is implicated in various liver diseases. By alleviating ER stress, TUDCA helps in maintaining cellular homeostasis and preventing apoptosis (programmed cell death) in liver cells.

Additionally, TUDCA has been shown to have anti-inflammatory and antioxidant properties, which further contribute to its protective effects on the liver. These properties help in reducing liver inflammation and oxidative stress, both of which are common in liver diseases such as non-alcoholic fatty liver disease (NAFLD) and cholestatic liver diseases.

Clinical studies have suggested that TUDCA may improve liver enzyme levels and histological features in patients with liver diseases, indicating its potential as a therapeutic agent. However, while the current data is promising, more extensive clinical trials are needed to fully establish the efficacy and safety of TUDCA in various liver conditions
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In summary, TUDCA benefits liver health primarily through its ability to reduce ER stress, inflammation, and oxidative damage, thereby protecting liver cells and improving liver function.

References

  1. UDCA, NorUDCA, and TUDCA in Liver Diseases: A Review of Their Mechanisms of Action and Clinical Applications.
    Handbook of Experimental Pharmacology
    Cabrera et al.
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OK sorry, I meant elevated AST, ALP, ALT or GGT as UDCA lowers these by 30–50% apparently.