There Has Never Been So Much Pressure for Men to Look Good at 60 (Bloomberg)

Millennial men grew up thinking we could stop worrying about our health and looks by retirement. Something’s changed.

Everyone talks about this one man at a gym I regularly go to in Manhattan. Judging by his face and skin, I think he must be about 60, but he has Tarzan muscles and the kind of six-pack where you can see veins bulging from his lower abdomen. More than once, I’ve heard a friend whisper something like, “Wow, I really I hope I look as good as he does at that age.”

And every time, I look over at those bouldery biceps and think, “My God, I DON’T.” When I’m 60, I want to rest. Sure, I’m possessed by the exercise demons now, but as I get closer to retirement, I don’t want to be drilling myself to death at Barry’s Bootcamp. I don’t want to worry about what I eat. I want to be out of that game completely. Like Galadriel in Lord of the Rings, I want to diminish and recede into the west. After all, isn’t the promise of nearing retirement age that we finally get off the hamster wheel of hustling and competition — and transition to a new, more relaxed phase of life? We were promised margaritas, not counting macros.

Instead, we’re going to have to stay hot. For, like, several more decades.

I just turned 45, which puts me at the top end of the millennial cohort — a geriatric millennial, we are artfully called. My eyesight is going, but I certainly don’t feel middle-aged. I think back with guilt to when my mom turned 40 and I got her a card congratulating her on being “over the hill” — i.e., halfway to death. It had gravestones on it.

“Midlife has genuinely shifted,” says Dr. Ryan Neinstein, a much sought-after plastic surgeon in Manhattan. “When our parents were 50, culturally, that was closer to the beginning of old age. Now my patients in their 50s are training for triathlons, starting companies, dating after divorce, raising young kids.”

Americans have become obsessed with longevity, extending not just our lifespan but also our “healthspan” — how long we live healthfully and happily. As a result, what middle age looks like has shifted too, thanks to everything from skincare to surgery. If we feel young and healthy on the inside, why wouldn’t we want to look that way on the outside? Now we’re all about extending our “hotspan.”

This perspective shift is more substantial for aging men, upon whom pop culture and society have traditionally set lower expectations of health and appearance. (This was explained most brilliantly, and unprintably, in an unforgettable Inside Amy Schumer sketch from 2015.) Millions now tune into “manosphere” podcasts extolling the importance — nay, necessity — of keeping up one’s vitality. And it’s about time: Women, of course, have felt pressure to stay hot forever since … forever.

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Hahaha – @RapAdmin - the article is spot on likely for 50’s definitely for 60’s up. Extending our “hotspan.” :slight_smile:

I probably would feel a lot worse and depressed had everything since my transition at 60 not worked out so great. Healthspan and Lifespan are a daily hobby and activity. But, at this age what else is there to worry about? Kids grown and moved on, job secure, money in-hand… got everything I need and I travel constantly.

In the article is a bare-chested photo of Tom Cruise at age 62 from Mission Impossible. I definitely have him beat at 68 years - see my avatar (and he has unlimited resources). Looks like through this site, I have gained knowledge he doesn’t have yet! Lol

So far winning… will keep at it.

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Ha! I see that change most notably in the growing number of men’s cosmetics for which the science is vaporous. At some point the pressure may become as acute as it is for women. Fortunately, the rise developed some time after my focus shifted to physiological and metabolic health, etc. Old men trying to look young are just that; I find it unattractive on them, and on women for that matter. Old men or women trying to be fit and healthy, is another matter.

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I agree. Social media pressure extends to all generations

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Living in a fairly lower population Midwest town… it’s easy to see how many more young people both men and women) have weight issues and seem to give up on themselves by early thirties… compared to my contemporaries at that age.

Lots of self-esteem issues… a lot of lonely, unconnected younger adults. So many a bit heartbreaking, as they should have everything just through their youth. Perhaps… just my old man viewpoint. :older_man:

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What is this journalist talking about? He wants to feel old?

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I’m 56 and I don’t plan on resting at age 60. Part of why I stopped working is that it wasn’t ideal for my health so why do it?

And like Agetron says, staying healthy and hot is a hobby. And there are far worse hobbies to have. It is relatively inexpensive although depends on your aggressiveness.

The obsession about physical appearance is really another matter. That can easily get unhealthy.

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Also past generations were largely unaware how beneficial strength training and physical exercise in general were. It was culturally understood that you age and become crippled and nothing could stop it. Im sure my father would have exercised and ate better if he had any idea what it would do to him. We have the knowledge now that people didn’t then.

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@LukeMV
Proof that 30’s to 40’s rock.

I could only hope to have an avatar as cool as Luke’s someday… that Boa snake wrapped around you… reminds me of my art history courses. Laocoon


Classic image for over 2,000 years. :wink:

The dad in the sculpture has to be at least 50 years old to have those two grown sons. The Greeks felt a rocken dad body was very normal. Lol

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A contrarian take on this Bloomberg article, from Jordan Shlain:


Longevity Maxxing? Run Cool.

Why chasing “Hotspan” is the ultimate crash and burn

JORDAN SHLAIN MD
MAY 5

There is a man at my gym who is roughly sixty, with the obliques where you can see the vasculature. Everyone whispers about him with admiration. I look at him and think: that man is tired.

I have run a medical practice for twenty-three years. I have watched the longevity industry mutate from a few earnest doctors with reasonable goals into an Instagram economy of peptide influencers, scalp tourism, and Brooklyn men who all look thirty-two and slightly haunted. So when I read the recent Bloomberg piece about “Hotspan,” the new social mandate to stay sexually viable until they walk you out of the building, I had two reactions.

The first was sympathy. The second was a thermodynamic observation.

Things that run hot wear out.

This is true of engines. Race cars need rebuilding. Camrys go to 300,000 miles. It is true of stars: blue giants burn beautifully and die in their twenties, while red dwarfs are unfashionable and live for a trillion years. It is true of relationships, microwaves left on high, and the burner under the office coffee pot. It is also true of human bodies, which are not exempt from physics just because someone has a peptide stack.

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Every system has a thermal envelope. Push past it and parts fail. My exam rooms see the men who pushed past them. So do the orthopedists, the cardiologists, and the divorce attorneys.

The Bloomberg piece quotes a plastic surgeon claiming a thoughtful 62-year-old today can “out present, outperform, and out-vitalize” a 45-year-old from 1995. Probably true. The 45-year-old from 1995 was eating margarine and sleeping four hours a night. The real question is why we are benchmarking ourselves against a 45-year-old at all. Why is the goal of being older to look like you aren’t?

My question is: is this insecurity dressed up as bio-hacking?

I have nothing against optimization. I monitor biomarkers for a living. I think Karl with the 73 pushups is a delight, and I would like to be his friend. What I don’t believe in is panic. The men coming into clinics asking for testosterone, semaglutide, NAD, and a fresh scalp from Istanbul are, underneath the protocol, pursuing the fantasy that if they get the inputs exactly right, time will not happen to them. What happened to being beautiful, rather than hot. I’m talking about the inner peace and beauty that radiates outward, quietly.

Time is going to happen to you. Time is undefeated. Gravity is inevitable and Oxygen is a free radical.

The actual fundamentals of staying well, the ones we keep refusing to find sexy, are devastatingly boring. Sleep. Move your body, but not as if you are being chased. Eat food that came out of the ground or once had a face. Have friends. Have a reason to get up. Get the vaccines. See a doctor who knows you. Floss.

That is the list. It has been the list for fifty years. It will be the list in fifty more. The reason we keep inventing new lists is that the real one cannot be sold to you.

Full Substack post: Longevity Maxxing? Run Cool. - by Jordan Shlain MD

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hahahahahahah this is so relatable, all of it. I just turned 40 and feel like im 400 years old. Gave up years ago when chronic issues and burn out took me over. I’ve never looked worse and would love for a boat to arrive on the western shores of Middle Earth and just run me over, or to take me east to dwell forever with the Valar and kings of old. Alas, that will not be happening so I will struggle onward toward my current projected retirement at the ripe old age of 109. Good times.

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