I am curious about people’s timing for their supplement. i.e. Vit D3, K2, B, C, creatine etc.
With what I know at the moment, I was told not to combine D3 and K2 and Mg.
What does everyone else think?
Creatine monohydryate for both breakfast and dinner
C with every meal. (I try to get no more than 500mg each dose, if not 1000mg)
D3 with no more than 200mg Mg with breakfast (5000IU)
Vitamin B1,3,5,6,12 with breakfast
K2 with lunch (over 100mcg MK7 … as high as 2000mcg)
1000mg Mg with dinner
Ozempic before dinner (during the weekly schedule)
Rapamycin after dinner (on my fornightly schedule)
Any other recommendations? I still havent started on the curcumin which I am planning but I think that is for dinner time.
Umm, who told you that? And why would you believe that? Can you cite a study showing any negatives from combining d3 + k2 or magnesium? I never heard of such a bizarre claim, but I’m happy to be shocked, so fire away, I’m all ears ! It’s really astonishing what people believe so I’m very curious .
From my own experience when I consume D3, K2 and 500mg of Mg, I kept getting cramps. When i move the Mg to a much later time, I dont get cramps. What I read online is D3, uses Mg… so from my experience … keeping the D3 and Mg 12 hours apart works. I still take a little Mg with D3 to help the absorption. Later I saw a youtube video telling me to split the D3 and K2. Thus I am asking people what their thoughts are from their experience.
Well, there’s no arguing with personal experiences, so you should do what makes you feel best. I have investigated both extensively and personally never came across any reason not to take d3 with k2, so unless there’s some study showing a conflict, I’m going to regard it as unsubstantiated hearsay. I always make a point of taking d3 and k2 at the same time (with fat in a meal), and have been doing so for decades, so I take the opposite view. To each their own however, nbd. YMMV.
I am planning to try keto with as little greens as possible. I wont give up my brocolli but that would probably be the only greens I will keep. We all know that we need to take Ca and Mg at different times as they compete for absorption.
There’s an apocryphal story of the most prominent scientists in Prussia back in the 18th century, who carefully studied bumblebee wings, and declared that based on the laws of physics a bumblebee flight is impossible, so bumblebees cannot fly. However the report never made it to the bumblebees so they flew anyway, in complete ignorance.
Human beings require both calcium and magnesium and after carefully studying both, the most prominent supplement sellers and researchers declared that they should never be consumed at the same time because they compete for absorption and terrible things would happen, lives and health cut short. However these reports never made it to the centenarians and supercentenarians, and they just kept eating with the magnesium and calcium all mixed up in their food.
OK, joking aside, when supplementing both in isolation, especially on an empty stomach and in big doses, you can have some interference effects. That’s not a good way to take these supplements. Especially calcium. A big bolus of calcium (as any supplement pill will have) is not how our physiology has evolved to handle calcium in the diet. This way of supplementing long term might result in unfavorable cardiovascular and other effects. I personally have not supplemented with calcium, but soon will do so, for a few months (I’m having spine surgery), so I looked into this, and my idea is to take calcium in powder form mixed into a drink taken with meals, quite small amounts and spread throughout the day. I’ll do it for about a week before surgery and for three months after (until the bones have fused enough) and then stop any calcium supplements. During this entire time I do not intend to alter my magnesium supplementation and do not worry about any interference. I take my magnesium supplements with my last meal anyway, while the calcium is mostly going to be taken with the earlier meals. Nothing more fancy timingwise. Unless one has some special medical or dietary condition, I don’t see any reason to be particularly careful taking in these two particular supplements far apart. Also, you should carefully consider if you want to supplement with calcium at all. Is your diet very restrictive in a way that drastically cuts down your access to calcium? I can see some situations where time limited carefully calibrated calcium supplementation might be helpful, but it’s rare. Even my plan in connection with the spine surgery is not really necessary, quite frankly I’m gilding the lilly a bit, just because - like many of us here - I am somewhat obsessive in health tweaking . But seriously, look carefully at your reasons for supplementing with calcium. Excess calcium in bolus form is unlikely to be health promoting. YMMV.
Creatine: literally whenever. I don’t think it matters.
C: I don’t see a need to supplement it
B complex: morning with breakfast. They generally have a bit of stimulant effect, so I wouldn’t take it at night
K: I also don’t take
Magnesium: both morning and night
Statin/ezetimibe: at night, just for convenience because I put the pills next to where I brush my teeth
In the morning, I also take 10ml of extra virgin olive oil, along with 5000IU vitamin D, fish oil and astaxanthin. Since they are all fat soluble, the EVOO should improve absorption.
Rapamycin: in the evening, usually coupled with fasting through until lunch time the next day. Get some autophagy without also submitting pro-growth signals at the same time.
As for fasting, I guess it depends why you’re fasting. If it’s for weight control, purported longevity benefits, gut reasons etc, it might affect whether you take them or not.