Side Effects of Rapamycin (part 2)

Do you worry about it. That can affect stress and glucose

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What appears to have changed slightly is your insulin sensitivity. You are having an insulin response to the food intake and that is what is driving the glucose back to your baseline. It appears you are driving it a bit lower than before. Are you taking an SGLT2i or acarbose per chance?

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No Acarbose or SGLT2i, no Metformin or Berberine.

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Hi @LaraPo

As promised, I am back to share that nothing out of the ordinary happened with my glucose levels today

I have my CGM on and took 8mg of rapa. My CGM only showed a little variation that was typical with eating… nothing like what you saw.

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Thanks Beth! My glucose reading is not out of the ordinary as well. It elevates after eating (and Rapa) as expected and then drops. It’s in fact a normal reading. It usually goes up to 150 (higher than ideal) after my carb loaded meal and then falls to 70-80, sometimes to 90, within an hour. I would probably try to add some little fat like avocado to my smoothie to flatten glucose curves. What surprised me was that Rapa did not negatively affect my glucose (no pseudo-diabetes). I’m just curious how many ppl have pseudo-diabetes while taking Rapa.

What were your exact parameters if you do not mind providing those. When you take Rapa, what’s the highest that your BG goes to? And then how soon does it drop and what’s the lowest reading it reaches? Could you be a little more specific?

On the other hand, your dose is 8mg and mine is 0.5 mg - so we should not even try to parallel it. It’s surprising though that your BG does not move much after such a big dose. Does it stay flat naturally or with meds?

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I’ve been feeling fantastic since getting up to 6mg a week. The rest of my week is quite anabolic in comparison to my rapamycin dosing day so it’s a really good thing to throw in.

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I’m an open book so happy to share anything.

Fwiw, without medication, I’ll easily spike to 170-220 when eating, even if it contains fat. That was also pre-rapa, so rapa did not do that to me. My a1c has always been fine, so my attempt to lower these spikes was after I learned they might contribute to heart disease, which I have.

I’m on dapagliflozin, and I take acarbose too.

At times I take low dose retatrutide (I am apoe3/4 so I try to get some in for hopeful brain effects). I haven’t noticed my dose doing anything to my spikes (meaning, I have plenty of weeks when I don’t take it and nothing stands out to me). I also realize this means I might not be getting much in the way of brain benefits :frowning:

Now that I’m on dapa and acarbose, my glucose only breaks through 140 maybe 1-3x per week (I don’t pay that much attention due to it not being a frequent problem for me anymore). My target of below 140 is something I got from John Hemming.

Here is my chart from yesterday. I went out to dinner, so I ate later than I normally would. I don’t have the specific time, sorry, but I took my rapa dose when I was already aprox at 120 from my lunch. I’m also happy to do another test for you next Sat and get more glandular. Just PM me with any specific things you want me to look for.

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Thanx Beth! I was interested in how high it goes immediately after you take Rapa. But you are on glucose control meds, which I didn’t take into account at first. In your case, your meds do work well. I don’t take any meds for glucose and trying to achieve a healthy balance naturally through combining the right foods and supplements with the right Rapa dose and timing it all right as well. I’m pleasantly surprised that my small daily Rapa dose doesn’t elevate it much or keeps it high during the day. I’m trying new for me Rapa dosing and it looks like it works well. Thanks again :blush:

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Just sharing the odd side effect my husband gets. He will get night fever/sweats.

At first his doctor was worried and didn’t think it would be from the rapa, so he did do a bunch of labs to rule out anything else.

He’s now gone on and off enough times that is he convinced it’s definitely related. He now takes 4mg most weeks instead of 6mg, so it’s better, but some weeks it pops up enough that he still takes breaks.

Also, while I have you…. I’m having a cracked filling replaced with a crown… because this is all teeth, unlike a root canal, can I assume I don’t need to skip taking rapa?

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I can’t promise that it is of no consequence but I’ve had crowns without stopping rapa with no adverse effect. I also can’t imagine why it would be a problem so I wouldn’t skip.

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I have noticed a slight increase in fasting glucose and therefore also tested C‑peptide. Which came in on the lower side. I wonder if others in the forum follow c-peptid. And what experinces you might have?

Since rapamycin can raise glucose levels, this change might not necessarily reflect insulin resistance but could instead be due to reduced insulin output — a sign of a ā€œtiredā€ pancreas.

When fasting glucose rises, two main mechanisms can cause it: (1) insulin resistance (tissues need more insulin) or (2) reduced insulin production from the pancreatic β‑cells (the pancreas cannot make enough insulin). C‑peptide is released together with endogenous insulin and therefore is a practical marker of how much insulin the pancreas actually produces; low C‑peptide indicates reduced β‑cell output, while normal or high C‑peptide suggests compensation for insulin resistance.

Low C‑peptide requires a different testing protocol than an isolated high fasting glucose; it calls for stimulated C‑peptide testing and antibody screening to assess β‑cell reserve and cause, not just repeat glucose measurements.

GLP-1 receptor agonists could be the drug to choose.

ā€œcotreatment with a GLP-1 receptor agonist completely prevented TAC
induced β cell dysfunction and partially prevented SIR-induced β cell dysfunction.ā€

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The herd left rapamycin last 12 months:
Bryan Johnson (extreme hacker but successful one), Peter Attia (exercise manic), Peter Diamandis (chancer, newsletter seller)

Did Peter fully drop it or is cycling rapa? Haven’t heard this before.

It’s funny I started taking rapamycin right as Bryan Johnson said it made him less healthy. I find it makes me feel acutely younger on the days I dose it. I wish I could take it daily, I can’t wait until we have things that can give us that feeling every day.

I have almost no doubt rapamycin is successful in humans for antiaging at least in some ways.

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Not trendy anymore, but there’s actually been more convincing data for rapamycin over the last year or so.

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