Therapeutic dose starts at 4mg. 8mg is one of the doses that had major weight loss. 12mg was better, but not by much. Some people think glucagon only kicks in at higher doses, but pre clinical data shows that you get glucagon activation at low doses.
Over time, you’ll find that your appetite returns, but that you keep losing weight.
One of the reasons I titrated up to 6, in addition to wanting to get to the 8-12 range that saw the most dramatic results in weight change and I’m guessing metabolic/anti inflmmatory change (aren’t a lot of the changes dose dependent?), is that I felt my appetite was back after a month of 4mg… Now after a month of 6mg still waiting for some equilibrium in terms of side effects…
Appetite returns, yes. If you browse GLP1 related forums, you’ll see posts about people panicking/complaining about lack of appetite surpression after being on a dose for awhile (mostly tirzepatide, semaglutide but this applies to all GLP1a) . They’re often worried about gaining the weight back since they’re eating more, but what ends up happening is that although they may not be losing more weight, they’re maintaining their weight loss.
I would increase the dose only on a weight loss plateau (4 weeks of no weight loss), not on loss of appetite suppression.
Your body gets used to a dose over time, if you’re talking about side effects . I’ve been on the same high dose for 4 months, and I’ve had 0 side effects on that dose, while slowly losing more weight. My appetite has been pretty normal during that period.
You can always monitor some changes via a metabolic panel. I saw my markers improve early when I was on only 4mg: decrease on A1c, Triglycerides, and better egfr.
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For the people on retatrutide here, do you have the skin burning sensation/itching? It’s so annoying when you try to sleep. It’s really a weird sensation. I’m week 1 on 8mg a week.
It’s not a histamine problem I’m already take 5mg of desloratadine daily.
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Reta ‘can cause skin-related discomfort known as allodynia or dysesthesia, which is described as heightened sensitivity, burning, tingling, or pain from light touch. Roughly 7–21% of users in high-dose studies reported this, often described as a sunburn-like sensation, which is typically temporary and dose-dependent.’
I’ve never had it but some suggest a zinc supplement helps. I suspect the zinc doesn’t do much and it’s just people having the effect diminish because some time has gone by as it’s often temporary.
I think diarrhea or gastro symptoms are a sign that you’re on too much.
Aside from still not being able to have an appetite after 6-7 weeks of 6 mg, I was getting IBS-D symptoms that I thought were a bacterial bug, in addition to light headed, near hypotension blood pressure
I wanted to get up to the 8-12 range but that isn’t made for everyone. Maybe being naturally an ectomorph or the other things in my stack, dietary and prescription that can enhance the glp process as well
All GLP1s can cause it. I’ve experienced it with doses of tirzepatide higher than 10mg. It is transient and not that annoying. Sort of feels like sunburn.
Thanks for the video! I asked my PCP a second time and she said yes. So I can get the prescription version of tirzepatide in vials and self inject. I start this week.
To my knowledge it’s pretty encompassing in its health effects besides the weight issue, in terms of metabolic improvements, protection of organs, against cognitive decline, cancer etc.
I should also say, I wasn’t blessed with the best metabolism as a ecotomorph. While it’s true I’m a 6’3 160 stick now, I was the definition of skinny fat and had the frame of a lot of visceral fat at 6’3/200 while starting (admittedly, not the best diet/lifestyle). Despite weight lifting program, never could gain much muscle
I think this has been beaten to death previously but for me not much of difference, went up about 10-15 and stayed there no matter which I did. I stopped them cold (all peps) including GLp1’s and HR is trending down again, albeit slowly, down about 5-6 in last 6-7 months.
Having said that I’ve read people saying that they had more increases from reta than tirze, and some people claiming very little increases from either (i.e. 3-4 points). As it has been noted GLP1’s seem to have big differences from person to person (the weight loss, and side effects), more so than with other meds.