I am not sure it does have 1.2g of elemental calcium. This would make each capsule about 2.5g there being two capsules for a serving.
If you have some you can weigh say 10 capsules and see what they are. Domestic weighing machines tend not to be that accurate for light things.
I have some of the non-slow-release kind, and can say they are big, thick, heavy pills. I could even imagine someone choking on one. I stopped taking them a year or so ago just because I decided that amount of calcium in my diet is probably excessive.
I forgot to say that a “dose” is 2 pills.
In which case you are right that could be substantially calcium citrate tetrahydrate. One reason I went to a chemical broker for my citrates was to get certainty as to what I was buying.
@John_Hemming, I took the following today to see if it would help with GERD. This with my morning coffee and no food until lunch.
Felt high until early afternoon. Colors were brighter; felt separated from my body, as though observing it; and had a pleasant relaxed feeling. A mouth ulcer from rapamycin felt more painful. Then I crashed and took a 1.5 hour nap and feel more or less back to baseline.
Any ideas what that was?
Not really.
I take a lot more, but I also include potassium.
@John_Hemming,
Trying to optimize the ratio of cations in your protocol. According to dietary guidelines, the recommended daily intake for each are:
Or as ratios:
Looking at sodium and potassium in isolation, this implies a 1:2 ratio, which does not align with your recommendation:
Can you elaborate on your recommendation?
I calculated the figures based on what I thought would enable maximising citrate intake whilst avoiding an excess of any cation. This comes out with the conclusion that a high proportion of Sodium is a good idea (over 50%). That may sound counterintuitive, but I have used it for over 4 years.
I have more recently dropped Calcium (last couple of years). It dissolves better without Calcium, but I may experiment with Calcium again at some stage in the future.
The precise ratios in the citrate mix my company sells (cytravo) can be found here:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0FN89KSTJ
These are the figures I came out as the optimal figures when I did the calculation. However, if you vary it a bit it probably won’t matter that much.
John,
Sorry a bit late to this but have a question. Do you do/recommend citrate daily for a while lets say one month per year or it is something you would rather keep taking as part of a normal daily regimen.
Its slightly complicated, but some daily is a good idea.
The problem is that you are intervening in a combinatory pathway. I will attach the infographic. The underlying issue is that you want more mitochondrial efficiency, but a bit of citrate helps.
Citrate is also a diuretic, which can lead to dehydration, another reason to monitor kidney function.
I asked chatGPT because I have not heard this. It did not confirm this. I have taken a lot of citrate today and felt dehydrated a bit, but not because of the volume of urine.
It would be interesting to see the sources that claim citrate is actually a diuretic.
“It also acts as a diuretic and increases the urinary excretion of calcium.”
That does not have a citation itself. It probably increases the excretion of calcium, however.
And there are always individual differences, which may not show up in a study of averages. Or maybe I am going through a period of adjustment.
“It has a role as a diuretic.”
“Potassium citrate acts as a diuretic (making you pee more)”
I am not saying that you are wrong. But your sources dont have sources.
I think it has been observed as a side-effect, which is moderate and temporary, but not as itself a subject of study.
