Prof. Steve Horvath- Epigenetic perspective on maximum versus expected lifespan in mammals

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He didn’t explain the reason (and nobody asked) why he eats a lot of frozen veggies vs fresh. Did I miss anything?

Yes - I understand that he and his family have recently moved from UCLA to the UK/Cambridge office for Altos, (he and his wife are from Europe originally and wanted to return). Perhaps being in the UK now, frozen vegetables are a little more available than the fresh veggies are in Southern California?

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Fresh vegetables are available all year round in all supermarkets in UK so the reason wouldn’t be about lack of availability.
Only possibility would be that during certain times of the year frozen veg can be much cheaper than fresh.

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Been from the UK, I think the reason might be that certain veg are flash frozen on the farm and are often ‘fresher’ than what you find on the supermarket shelves

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That’s not just in the UK — it’s actually true everywhere. Most people don’t know this but frozen vegetables tend to have peak nutritional value whereas fresh ones have been sitting around at the grocery store and wherever they were until they got there from the farm. And as they sit around in your fridge the nutritional value decays some more.

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Yeah, it horrified me when I found out that potatoes could be stored for up to a year before ending up on the shelf

You picked the wrong example lol. Potatoes are fine to be eaten even after five years and you could barely tell a difference(assuming they haven’t rotted yet). Potatoes were a staple stored food in many European countries before the refrigeration area. You’d hopefully have an abundant production in late spring so you’ll have enough till year later new crop lol
The rest of veggies I agree they lose freshness and probably nutrients the longer they stay in store shelfs. Btw onions and garlic are same as patato. No difference if they are freshly harvested or it’s one year later

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Ha yes, potatoes are mainly just starch so it doesn’t make a difference. Anything you don’t need to refrigerate and won’t rot for months is fine (garlic on point example). But your dainty fresh stuff, your broccoli and zucchini and even the fruit… I am a huge fan of frozen WILD blueberries—excellent value and they make any cereal / oatmeal taste amazing.

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You are spot on. I always buy frozen organic fruit and veggies at Costco. Great value and great taste. Too bad they are out of frozen corn lately. Use to love it. Another of my favorite frozen organic cherries (in addition to frozen berries and pineapple)

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On the topic of frozen fruit and veg, here is a site that @Bicep pointed out that has great prices and delivery (to somewhere near you, hopefully). I’ve started using them even in my little town.

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I don’t think that cheaper or more expensive is applicable in this particular case. There should be a different reason. If I were there at that conference I would ask him about the reason. Surprised that nobody asked. I’m inclined to accept @medaura explanation.

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Yes they seem pretty good. About 50%-100% higher than Costco though(unless there is no Costco near where one lives)

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Costco has great prices but not many choices when it comes to berries. Their wild blueberries are great, but I have to order Lingonberries, Black Currants and Aronia somewhere else.

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No Costco near me. We do have Sam’s Club. For the stuff I’m buying, Azure prices are only higher than Sam’s for organic (azure) vs non organic (Sam’s) and other specialty versions of products such as “low sodium” beans (azure) vs regular beans (sams), which I consider different products. Plus the availability of an amazing array of frozen fruit is irresistible.

Horvath is one of the “Rockstar scientists” recruited to Altos, and Altos is rumored to be paying their top scientists $1 Million+ per year, so I suspect Steve is not so cash strapped that he “has” to buy frozen vegetables :wink:

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And given the venue, I would hope he would focus on more topical distinctions.

Probably no one is there to share money saving tips🙂

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