A friend of my wife has successfully lowered her cholesterol from 5 to 2 by taking Red Yeast Rice supplements. This appears to be the source from which statins were developed. So, if you are interested in stations without a prescription, this appears to be how to do it. Does anyone here take it?
Please note the interaction with GFJ and others as listed in the article below.
Red yeast rice - Mayo Clinic.
That’s an interesting thought. There are arguments about statins and what they do is reduce cholesterol in the round not just LDL. However, on the basis of this post I have bought some and will give it a shot some time. As I do weekly blood tests it would add another data point.
Thank you! Please let us know how it affects your cholesterol!
What are the units for those cholesterol numbers? I don’t recognize single digit cholesterol.
Why not take a statin instead? Same action. Same side effects. Cheap if you are insured. Better dose control.
The units are mmol/L. That’s what we use in Hong Kong. Unfortunately, insurance does not cover prescriptions so you must pay for drugs yourself. However if you have a problem, there is free healthcare available through the public system. Unfortunately it works on a treatment and not a prevention principle, so treating marginally high cholesterol is not done. I guess I could order some generics from India.
I’ve taken RYR for number of years; benefits of statins, without the risks. IMO the entire cholesterol theory was erroneous from The Framingham study forward.
The latest large studies (actually analysis, rather than controlled,) show that especially for those I think > age 60, the higher the LDL, and the higher the total cholesterol, the longer one lives.
Even the “apparent” success of statins seem to be from general reduction of inflammation, rather than anything related to lipids.
And likely members of this site, know that most of the brain is fat / cholesterol, & when total cholest is low, < 150, all cause deaths increase. Not from MI, but from accidents, & suicides. This info often omitted from many studies.
Before anybody just follows advise to start statin, may want to check out:
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“The analysis included 19 518 older adults followed during 10 years (median = 9.7 y). All-cause mortality rates were 34% lower among those who had adhered to statin treatment, compared with those who had not (hazard ratio [HR] = .66; 95% confidence interval [CI] = .56-.79). Adherence to statins was also associated with fewer atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease events (HR = .80; 95% CI = .71-.81). The benefit of statin use did not diminish among beyond age 75 and was evident for both women and men.”
The importance of reducing inflammation may be more important as we get older.
Here is a much newer study of 19,518 people. Yes, the use of statins is considered controversial by some, but not by me.
To be fair, I have flip-flopped on this in the past, but since I am past age 75, I will continue with my low-dose statin.
I think RYR will be as effective, but of course no company is willing to pay the millions for studies as in statins, as no patents on Red Yeast Rice.
I’m 74, but even decades earlier, have viewed inflammation as root of almost all degenerative diseases.
IMO, almost all studies are suspect, as they are not only designed by the companies selling the patented product, but items such as just what is in the alternative placebo, etc, is designed to duplicate many of the likely negative side effects.
And I always wonder about the “failed” studies, that for one reason or another are not completed, and/or not reported.
In any event, I think the statins have risks, and transient global amnesia, etc is more common than pharma companies admit.
I assume you also take considerable CoQ, to counter acknowledged problems with statins?
For cardiovascular, also looked into EDTA Chelation as well as PlaqueX (phosphatidyl choline) IVs?
What is the proper ratio of CoQ10 to RYR Red Yeast Rice?
I think there is quite a bit of evidence that effective longevity protocols do result in slightly higher cholesterol levels. I cannot pull together all of the papers on this, but it does seem to fly as a concept. Using some form of intervention to direct Acetyl-CoA away from cholesterol manufacture also seems to help.
I don’t know what the “proper ratio” is, but I have bought Dulac Red Yeast Rice which claims to have 10 mg of Monacolin K (aka Lovastatin) in with each 200mg of Red Rice Ferrmentate to which they add 10mg of CoQ and 100mg of Fenugreek Seed Powder. AFAIK the Fenugreek is also supposed to help with lipids, but I have not read up on it.
Whether this is a good ratio or now or how accurate the contents are I cannot comment.
Incidentally I do want to try this on a 12 hourly basis (it has quite a short half life) for a few days around one of my coming blood tests, but I am currently in the middle of stabilising the outcome of a previous test so it may not be this week.
I really do wish to see whether I can identify any outcome changes from a statin and this seems the best candidate. (partially because it is non-prescription and hence less hassle to get. I was prescribed Statins 19 years ago, but stopped taking them. My view now is that there may be a merit in cycling statins, but I am not persuaded about chronic use.
Red yeast rice is just a naturally occurring source of lovastatin.
Arguing for RYR while simultaneously knocking cholesterol as a contributer to heart disease is a direct contradiction.