@medaura I’m looking into this DEP device. It looks very promising (i was allways scared of needles 
) and I’d love to learn more. I couldn’t find the manual on Scribd or anywhere else; could you share it (link or file)? Also, a few of the Alibaba links from your earlier posts in another thread no longer work. Is Annis Dang still your contact? Probably she is best to inquire about prices/shipping etc.
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Annis is who I buy the products to use with DEP from. But the device itself is from Dennis Ma, with this WhatsApp contact. Ask him for the DEP device and he can whip up a purchase link
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Good thanks! I’m already writing him as I write this
If it’s really around $200, it’s a no-brainer.
If you have the original manual, I’d be most grateful too.
PS: One hour later. Ordered it 
It was 200 euro including shipping and optional consumables. Your contact is really efficient and quick.
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Oh he can send you the manual in pdf form but unfortunately it’s more like a marketing brochure than a manual. To see how to use it just watch that webinar @RapAdmin linked to. Basically use level 3 on the face, if you can stand it (the weird electric current feeling) and 5 on the body. It’s also highly recommended to exfoliate prior to remove dead skin cells and make it easier for the compounds to penetrate. I use a cheap microdermabrasion kit from Temu, but when I’m in a hurry just go for a good makeup removal wipe. You’ll see there’s nothing to it once you play with the DEP — very easy to use.
The manual I mentioned was for the ultra former MPT — I found it there so I can have precise settings.
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So, although I know there are various good methods for fixing scars, I was still was interested in understanding how some standard methods that some dermatologists recommend – like silicone gel – work. It just seems to run counter to the fact that scars are about disorganized collagen fibers. Apparently what happens is that (according to a Google search) following an injury, the skin loses a lot of water; this water loss triggers keratinocytes to release cytokines; these cytokines, in turn, induce fibroblasts to produce excessive collagen; and these create disorganized fibers. Putting silicone gel over the scar stops the water loss, resulting in diminished signals to produce collagen; fibroblasts respond. Then, on top of that, silicone somehow influences growth factors; and a balance between fibrolysis and fibrogenesis is restored; and so scar flattens.
I don’t think it works well on regular skin (non-scar), though, to “de-age” it.
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I thought a little about that (de-age skin), also. It seems to me that what I keep hearing about “collagen” and “fat” and the other things don’t help you understand what the real problem is. Here are two (there are more) that are key: (1) You’ve got the 3D structure of skin organized in a way that looks “old” or “cellulite” or whatever; and (2) The skin is too pliable or “jiggly”. These can probably be fixed using some simple methods. e.g. the second one you can fix by just laying down a checkerboard pattern on the skin, e.g. using some kind of invisible gel like silicone; but you’d probably want something stronger. The vertical lines would make it hard to move the skin horizontally, and the horizontal lines would make it hard to move it vertically. That would make the skin no longer jiggly. And, in fact, there are skin products with “film-forming agents” that achieve a similar end (and, for example, temporarily eliminate signs of “turkey neck”).
Oh, wow. I had no idea Rapa effected that!
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Thanks! Can’t wait to try it should arrive in about a week.
How often do you use yours?
You mentioned hyperdilute Radiesse. I’m guessing it also works with a range of skin boosters, right?