Derm-Biomeās compound prevented epidermal thickening, reduced cellular senescence and preserved collagen levels under UV stress.
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Hereās a new product Iām currently testing. Apologies if anyone has previously posted it. Itās got some interesting research behind it. It was created by Hans Kierstead whose company Immunis has a really interesting immune secretome drug in phase 2.
Provoque is a skin secretome product. There are some interesting histologocsl reports that were done.
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Pls keep us posted about the results!
I donāt really have much of a problem with skinā¦ yet. (And us guys tend to have thicker skin than women do, so it lasts a little longer.) But I was wondering the other day about a few things to improve skin. One that I was wondering about was hyperbaric oxygen. It apparently speeds up skin turnover, and I had read it also increases collagen and elastin production. Itās especially useful for speeding up wound healing:
It heals damaged tissue by helping your body grow new skin, blood vessels and connective tissues.
Also:
In contrast, the collagen type III volume fraction was ~120 % higher in HBOT wounds (1.41+/-0.81 %) than in CONT ones (0.63+/-0.37 %; p=0.046). In addition, the ratio of the volume fraction of both collagens in the wound ((I+III)w) to the volume fraction of both collagens in the adjacent healthy skin ((I+III)h) was ~65 % higher in rats subjected to HBOT (8.9+/-3.07 vs. 5.38+/-1.86 %, HBOT and CONT, respectively; p=0.028). Vessels density (number per 1 mm2) was found to be higher in CONT vs. HBOT (206.5+/-41.8 and 124+/-28.2, respectively, p<0.001). Our study suggests that HBOT promotes collagen III formation and decreases the number of newly formed vessels at the early phases of healing.
So it seems to have a huge effect, in rats at least, given a lot of HBOT over a short period of time (18 days). Perhaps it would have noticeable effects in humans if they were to try less than an hour dose for a small number of days.
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Can You Shrink Pores with Skincare? | Chemist Confessions Podcast
Note: In this video them mention:
New favorite study featuring SK-II pitera from our pore care deep dive.
A really creative test design that shows how pore size slightly increases when we wake up in the morning vs after our morning & evening cleanse.
Have you tried SK-IIās Facial Essence? What was your experience?
More details on SK-II and Pitera below (after summary)
Introduction to Pore Care
- The podcast hosts, Victoria and Gloria, introduce the topic of pore care, emphasizing its complexity and the various angles from which it can be approached.
- They mention the different factors influencing pore appearance, including biology, skincare ingredients, and product types.
- The episode is structured into three sections: pore biology, skincare ingredients for pore reduction, and skincare routines.
Understanding Pores
- Pores are defined as openings of the pilo-sebaceous follicle, which can include hair follicles and sebaceous glands.
- The hosts highlight that the perception of pores is often tied to oily skin and acne, but pores can be a concern for all skin types.
- They stress that the concept of pores is poorly defined in medical literature, often measured arbitrarily.
- The hosts clarify that the biological and structural aspects of pores vary widely across individuals due to genetics, gender, and ethnicity.
Factors Influencing Pore Size
- The biological factors affecting pore size include genetics, age, gender, and ethnicity, with studies indicating that men generally have larger pores due to higher sebum production.
- Women may experience increased pore size during the ovulation phase of their menstrual cycle due to hormonal changes.
- A significant study by LāOreal examined pore size across different ethnicities and found that Brazilians and Indians have a higher density of enlarged pores compared to French and Japanese populations.
- The study revealed that the age factor contributes less to pore size than ethnicity, indicating a stronger correlation with genetic factors.
Skin Conditions and Pore Care
- Skin elasticity and excess sebum production are crucial factors in pore visibility, with excess sebum often linked to acne.
- The severity of acne does not correlate to increased pore size, providing relief to those concerned about the impact of breakouts on pore appearance.
- The hosts discuss the lack of diverse study populations in skincare research and the implications for understanding pore care across different ethnicities.
Skincare Ingredients for Pore Reduction
- Retinoids are highlighted as effective ingredients for pore reduction, with studies showing significant improvements in pore appearance after consistent use.
- Glycolic acid peels have been shown to reduce the appearance of pores by about 30%, with over 70% of subjects reporting improvement.
- Niacinamide is also noted for its potential in reducing pore size, with studies showing a statistically significant decrease in pores with its use.
- The hosts emphasize that while many products claim to minimize pores, their effectiveness can vary greatly depending on individual skin types and conditions.
The Importance of Cleansing
- Cleansing is identified as a fundamental step in pore care, with studies indicating that regular washing can lead to a reduction in pore size.
- The hosts encourage listeners to be mindful of their cleansing routine, emphasizing the importance of thoroughness in removing impurities and excess sebum.
- Even simple water cleansing has shown to contribute to a reduction in pore visibility, reinforcing the value of maintaining a consistent cleansing routine.
Conclusion and Recommendations
- The hosts summarize the key takeaways for effective pore care, including the importance of using targeted ingredients like retinoids, glycolic acid, and niacinamide.
- They stress the significance of cleansing as a daily practice and its role in maintaining skin health and minimizing pore appearance.
- Lastly, the hosts highlight the need for individuals to embrace their skinās natural texture and not obsess over pore size, promoting a healthy perspective on skincare.
SK-II and Pitera
Hereās the quick, human-only evidence readout on PITERAĀ® (Galactomyces ferment filtrate, GFF) for skin health/appearanceāwhatās been shown, in whom, and how strong the data are:
What outcomes has PITERAĀ® improved in people?
- Hydration & barrier function (ā TEWL): In 86 Japanese women measured in 1999 and again in 2010, then treated twice daily for 12 months with three SK-II products containing PITERAĀ®, skin hydration increased back toward baseline and transepidermal water loss (TEWL) fell, correlating with improvements in visible aging parameters. Study was preāpost without a control arm. MDPI
- Wrinkles, spots, roughness: In the same 12-month cohort, objective image analysis showed progressive reductions in wrinkle score, hyperpigmented spots, and skin roughness over 2, 8, and 12 months. Again: no parallel placebo group; all participants used a 3-product PITERAĀ® regimen. MDPI
- Mask-related irritation/instability: In 20 healthy women followed over six weeks (no mask ā mask ā mask + GFF moisturizer, sequentially), wearing masks increased daily fluctuations in pore size, redness, and TEWL; adding a GFF moisturizer normalized these fluctuations toward baseline. This was a within-subject, sequential design (not randomized to product vs placebo). PubMed
- Post-acne hyperpigmentation (PAH): A randomized, placebo-controlled trial (n=51, Fitzpatrick IVāV) tested a combination serum (GFF + dexpanthenol + Centella asiatica) twice daily for 8 weeks. Versus placebo, the active serum improved lightness (L)* at weeks 4ā6 in FST V and reduced melanin index by week 8 in FST IV. Because the formula combined multiple actives, the specific contribution of GFF canāt be isolated.
Hereās what the peer-reviewed clinical papers actually quantify about PITERAĀ®/Galactomyces ferment filtrate (GFF). Iām only listing effect sizes that are explicitly stated or can be cleanly calculated from the reported numbers; where the papers donāt give numeric magnitudes, I flag that.
1) 12-month skin-aging reversal study (longitudinal, N=37)
- Daily application of a PITERAĀ® regimen for 12 months after an 11-year natural-aging interval produced an estimated āreversalā of 9.23 years on a composite skin-aging score (wrinkles, pigmented spots, roughness) relative to the subjectās own 2010 baseline (model-based estimate from the paper). The study reports significant improvements in each component and increased hydration with correlated decreases in TEWL, but it does not publish percent changes for individual wrinkle/spot/roughness metrics. MDPI+1
2) Mask study (6-week, within-subject; N=20)
Measured four times daily across 3 phases: baseline (no mask), mask only, then mask + PITERAĀ® moisturizer.
What the paper gives numerically (arbitrary units, AU):
A. Change from baseline ā mask period (i.e., mask stress effect sizes)
- Intra-day average pore size: +83% (30.33 ā 55.44 AU; p=0.015).
- Intra-day Ī fluctuation (highestālowest per day):
- TEWL: +106% (4.67 ā 9.63 AU; p=0.005)
- Pore size: +83% (14.34 ā 26.24 AU; p=0.003)
- Redness: +46% (5.41 ā 7.88 AU; p=0.026)
B. Effect of PITERAĀ® moisturizer during mask use (treatment phase)
- Figures show the PITERAĀ® moisturizer returned the enlarged pore size (daily average) and the elevated Ī fluctuations (TEWL, pore size, redness) back to baseline levels. The study demonstrates statistical significance for this normalization, but does not print the post-treatment numeric means in tables, so percent reductions vs. the mask phase canāt be precisely computed from the text/tables. MDPI
Bottom line on effect sizes
- Wrinkles / dark spots / roughness (12-month study): Clear, statistically significant improvements over 12 months of PITERAĀ® use with a composite ārejuvenationā magnitude of ~9.2 years. Exact percent changes for each sub-metric (wrinkle depth/count, spot area/contrast, roughness) are not provided in the paper. MDPI
- Barrier & redness stability under stress (mask study): Quantified mask-induced worsening of TEWL fluctuation (+106%), pore size (avg +83%, fluctuation +83%), and redness fluctuation (+46%). PITERAĀ® moisturizer normalized these back to baseline, but post-treatment numeric means arenāt tabulated, so an exact ā% improvement vs mask phaseā isnāt computable from the printed tables.
Key Human / Clinical / Translational Studies & Trials
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āSignificant Reversal of Facial Wrinkle, Pigmented Spot and Roughness by Daily Application of Galactomyces Ferment Filtrate-Containing Skin Productsā
Longitudinal (11-year interval, then 12 months treatment) in 86 women
2.Link:* PubMed / MDPI
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36769815/ PubMed
https://www.mdpi.com/2077-0383/12/3/1168 MDPI -
āDaily Fluctuation of Facial Pore Area, Roughness and Redness among Young Japanese Women; Beneficial Effects of Galactomyces Ferment Filtrate Containing Antioxidative Skin Care Formulaā
4-week study (young women) on intra-day fluctuation endpoints
4.Link:* PubMed
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34198790/ PubMed -
āEnhanced Fluctuations in Facial Pore Size, Redness, and TEWL Caused by Mask Usage Are Normalized by the Application of a Moisturizerā
Mask stress + recovery with GFF moisturizer (within-subject)
6.Link:* PubMed
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35456214/ PubMed+2PMC+2 -
āTranscriptomic Analysis of Human Keratinocytes Treated with Galactomyces Ferment Filtrate (Piteraā¢)ā
In vitro / ex vivo human keratinocyte model to examine gene expression changes
8.Link:* PubMed / PMC
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36012891/ PubMed
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9409768/ PMC -
āGalactomyces ferment filtrate (Potentiates an Anti-Inflammaging System in Keratinocytes)ā
Mechanistic / cell biology (oxidative stress, AHR, barrier genes)
10.Link:* PMC / Journal of Clinical Medicine
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9657190/
Company Website:
https://www.sk-ii.com/product/essence/facial-treatment-essence
Ebay: (much less expensive)
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That is an interesting study, will need to dive a bit deeper into this compound.
While it may be a localized benefit to the skin, it will need to be systemically effective to benefit the liver, arteries, lungs, tendons, ligaments, cartilage that also depend on elastin to keep us functioning and alive.
So far Iāve found this particular item from the Radiesse study. This brings into question the āqualityā of the elastin produced with this method. Natural elastin has a half life of 70 years, this āstimulatedā elastin seems to have a much shorter half life.
- Elastin increases are time-dependent, peaking at several months post-injection, but may persist for up to 9 months or longer before returning to baseline.
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I have been using Radiesse for years. The results are fantastic. It lasts 18 months for me.
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From what Iāve read and you can correct me if Iām wrong, it is a localized treatment. Either as a filler or a more diverse coverage with different dilutions depending on how deep or shallow the injection.
While it certainly appears to be effective for this purpose itās not going to extend life span as it is not systemic and provides no benefit to the organs that keep you alive.
But Iām going to see if I can get my hands on some of the nano version that is used by the Derms as I would not mind at least looking younger LoL!
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It is localized but Iām sure there can be ways of delivering it to inner parts of the bodyā not currently available but feasible in principle. Still leaves organs out of the equation.
It works amazingly well. Found me cheap Chinese sources of Radiesse and with dermoelectroporation, itās my favorite skincare modality by far.
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How is that going for you? Any new before and after pics?
Can you share the details on how you are doing this, perhaps with photos? How deep does this go, and can you control the depth? How do you know itās āworkingā? Any side effects? Any pain?
Howās what going? My skincare experiments? Iāve been very busy so keeping it minimalistic. The most effective treatments for me are 1) ultraformer mpt every 4 months and thatās effective to me due to my particular face shape, needing to prevent jowls and keep the jawline snatched 2) Radiesse diluted 1:1 or 1:2 with cytocare or NCFT 135 ha. I have lots of devices that can help with various things but I end up only doing these two. The exception is laser to plump the lips but Iāve been too busy for that lately. Theyāre looking good enough without the extra help.
I can but probably not till next time I actually do it ā hopefully next week. Zero pain, only a weird feeling. But know itās working on the spot because the product disappears, gets absorbed ā maybe not 100% but Iād say around 80%. You cannot control the depth, and thatās a shortcoming but in a sense also a superpower, unless thereās counter-indications for the product going deep, which for Radiesse there arenāt. I actually think this mode of delivery minimizes the risk of nodule formation that you incur with injection because it spreads the product so very thin.
And then the way you know itās working is by looking in the mirror. Itās unmistakable, but takes a couple of weeks to kick in.
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Is this another device youāve purchased (if so, which one?) or is it a professional service you get?
For the āRadiesse and with dermoelectroporationā how much do you use in your formulation, and for what areas (square inches?). And Medauraās related post: Dermoelectroporation for Aging Skin Health
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Please document the steps you take from start to finish so others here can replicate. Tools you use during the process of mixing / diluting, how much you use in ML, for what areas, etc. Sort of like people did with the DIY rapamycin Skin Cream: DIY Rapamycin skin cream
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Can you share sources?
I donāt have the official device ā itās too bulky. But I have essentially the same technology. The important point is to have line vs mere point delivery of energy, otherwise the treatment would take too long and not be that effective. Also important to use the right depths for the right areas. On SCRIBID I found the manual that comes with the official product, specifying all the settings for every facial area, leaving nothing to guess work. I also watched a few webinars on YT by the branded manufacturer so I am very prepared and confident when I work on myself, though ot course it would be much easier to do it to someone else.
Someone else might gravitate towards a different device based on his needs but this happens to be my personal holy grail because I can tell that as I age Iām prone to heaviness in the lower face and itās perfect for that, to contour it. If you have eye wrinkles or whatnot, something else might work even better. For me this takes care of all my needs.
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Can you share the device you got and sourceā¦ Iām assuming another Alibaba purchase like the dermoelectroporation deviceā¦
Thereās this dermatologist on Instagram who showed me how itās done. All you need is a syringe and a luer lock to dilute it. I use 1.5 cc and aim for every 4 weeks but not indefinitely. Pretty sure after a few treatments spaced apart like that you need to slow down, as I have. Might end up too bulky.
Here he is:
HDR NECK TREATMENT USING DEP (DermoElectroPorationĀ®ļø)
Iāve always wanted HDR (Hyperdilute Radiesse) treatment of my neck to increase Collagen Type 1 & 3 along with elastin to tighten my loose skin. I canāt really do it myself using a cannula. The DEP (DermoElectroPorationĀ®ļø) System is my solution.
DEP is the new non-invasive, stand alone powered drug-delivery system.
DermoElectroPorationĀ®ļø increases the skinās permeability by using the skinās water based channels opened by a particular controlled current delivered to the patient, therefore allowing the substances to be absorbed by the hypodermis and muscle membranes.DermoElectroPorationĀ®ļø promotes the transdermal delivery of both micro- and macro molecules (up to 2 million Dalton weight) safely into the body without the use of needles. This is perfect for skin boosters and PRP hair restoration, which typically require upwards of 100 injections. Another popular indication is the delivery of Hyperdilute Radiesse (HDR) for skin biostimulation as seen here.
Treatment results will come to full bloom in 3-4 months. Iāll keep you posted regarding my progress.
And hereās how you dilute it. Stupid simple:
You can even use saline to dilute it but I use Cytocare or NCFT 135 HA as this derm has had better results from it that way. And it stands to reason.
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