Now please make sure I stay safe and don’t incorrectly inject myself [don’t worry about my calorie consumption - I regularly go way over my basal metabolic rate of 1200 calories and can force avocados into myself if I go too low. You should be way more worried about how much more time I need than other people need to “make it”]
What are the best syringes/sources of bacteriostatic water?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Retatrutide/comments/16dkie5/sending_aod_instead_of_reta/
“AOD-9604 was initially intended as a potential treatment for obesity. Australian company Metabolic Pharmaceuticals (the patentee of the above patent), had previously conducted six human clinical studies involving 925 patients. While the trials proved that AOD-9604 was profoundly safe, they did not show a clinically meaningful weight loss outcome across the total trial population. As a result, the obesity program was terminated in February 2007AOD-9604 was initially intended as a potential treatment for obesity. Australian company Metabolic Pharmaceuticals (the patentee of the above patent), had previously conducted six human clinical studies involving 925 patients. While the trials proved that AOD-9604 was profoundly safe, they did not show a clinically meaningful weight loss outcome across the total trial population. As a result, the obesity program was terminated in February 2007”
u/houstoncouchguy let me give you a word of advice, the two labs mentioned here pretty much it for independent lab testing.
But please, don’t bother getting your vials tested unless you get volume tested as well. You can have one drop of a peptide in a vial with 99% mannitol and you’ll still come up with 98% pure peptide.
Kind of like the analogy of a bag of Doritos. It’s supposed to have so many ounces of Doritos in the bag but you open it up and there’s nothing but crumbs.
Without the volume tested the purity means nothing.
Average testing per vial is a little under $400 from Jano and $250-ish for MZ.
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Skye… is the most recommended
as for biopeptidex…
at least janoshik has confirmation that the site isn’t FAKING janoshik CoA, though some still find janoshik sketch (still need more time to look into this but this is still better than what nusciencepeptides provides)
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back to OP, I asked mzlabs if they can confirm the nusciencepeptides semaglutide test and they confirmed so phew.
nusciencepeptides has a coa given by mzlabs, though it is most trustable when a customer submits it in bc a peptide source can always selectively choose which samples to submit
If you ask Janoshik of a CoA, you have to provide what substance you’re testing and he has donated to a Ronald McDonald charity. These things just seem unreliable.
I would want a testing company allowing to submit samples anonymously via the mail, then report back the substance and purity. If enough people buy a substance and do this then it seems more likely to me to be secure. Like dozens of reddit comments. I don’t care about verifying a CoA document.
I think you have to tell him what substance you’re testing for because of the testing method itself. You need to know what you’re looking for to find it (based on molecular structure/weight).
The patent is also set to expire in China next year, which is the bigger news to me. Also, mazdutide, developped specifically for the Chinese market, should be available by 2027 since it just completed phase 3 last month .
BD is a good brand for syringes. For injecting yourself get the thinnest gauge needle you can, 31g would be suitable. 0.25mm is long enough. 0.5ml is enough.
If you’re going to be reconstituting yourself you’ll want to get a good quality bacteriostatic water like Pfizer brand, and I also hear Hospira is good.
For reconstituting you need to have on hand 70% isopropyl alcohol for sanitizing everything, large syringe (for instance “3mL Luer-Lok BD Syringes”), luer lock needle (“27 G x 1-1/2 in. BD PrecisionGlide™ Needle”) PES 13mm (or smaller) filters for filtering the reconstituted peptide, sterile vacuum sealed vials to put the reconstituted peptide into and something to label the peptide.
You will also want to wear a mask while reconstituting to limit contamination, and maybe wear disposable gloves that you sanitize repeatedly throughout the process. Also sanitize all of the surface you work on, and individual packagings of syringes, needles, filters, etc. before you start work.
Filtration is essential. Testing with a place like Janoshik will tell you if the chemical you want is inside the vial, but it won’t tell you if other contaminants are in there like glass shards of from the original vial, or bacteria, or byproducts of peptide manufacturing. Additionally, any testing place will ALWAYS filter the peptide before testing. The result you see is the result of filtering before testing.
Method:
Sanitize everything.
Using a new bottle of bacteriostatic water draw up how much liquid you need. For instance if your vial contains 2mg and you want 2mg per 1mL, draw up 1mL.
You can put a separate needle into the vial to relieve vacuum pressure before you try injecting the bacteriostatic water into it.
Carefully swirl the liquid around to dissolve the powder. Wait for it to go clear before going to the next step.
With a new syringe and new needle draw up the liquid, then remove that needle from the syringe, put a filter on the syringe, then put a needle on the end of the filter. Do so without touching the connecting parts.
Put a new separate needle into the new sterile vacuum sealed vial to relieve pressure and then place your syringe into the vial and inject through the filter.
Once complete sanitize the vial. Once dry, label it with the name of substance, mg per mL, how many units on your syringe a dose is and the date of reconstitution.
Responsibly dispose of all sharps into a sharps disposal container.
I give daily injections to my cats (and occasional to myself) and am not this careful, so I’m asking you this in the spirit of finding out if I should be doing a better job.
This is about step 5
I use an alcohol wipe and swab the silicone lid before putting the needle in. Is using a new needled and syringe in step 5 of any value? I’m not wrapping my head around that.
I do get using a new needle to be placed on to the filter, but I’m referring to the one to draw up the fluids after mixing?
And ha, when I was doing klotho injections, I didn’t know about using a second needle to relive the pressure, and I had $100’s spray all over my bathroom mirror!!! Comical and tragic!
Since syringes and needles are so cheap I have no problem using a new one at that step.
The reason I do so is because once the bacteriostatic water has been injected into the vial with lyophilized/raw peptide it would need to sit in the open air outside of packaging for a few minutes where it may pick up an airborne contaminant.
The cost of using a different syringe at this moment is far less than the cost of potentially contaminating a whole vial of peptide and the harm that might come to you (or your cat) if that contamination resulted in using it, even if that was only temporary local inflammation.
I could imagine the frustration lol. I had one vial top pop right off unexpectedly.
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