Experience with Nicotinamide Adenine Dinucleotide (NAD+)?

The marketing hype for this is out of control. I know multiple healthy 20 something year olds getting NAD infusions. What a waste (probably)

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@Candleflower Wont sell to you? crazy. All the grey market peptide sites have NAD or usually have in stock. Just picked one at random:

$90 / 500mg. 100mg typical energy dose. This form is diluted for injection with BAC water. Diluting with 1ml BAC makes for 10units on a syringe = 50mg.

I don’t feel anything BTW. Same with glutathion injections same with l-carnitine injections, same with 5mg / day MOTSC and everything else I take on faith like rapa… ;( This includes Klotho-1.

Like you mainly energy is from modifinil!! :frowning: :frowning: :frowning: Everything else is cross fingers on faith. Since no mitocondiral tests that say MOTSC or SS-31 will be beneficial… Or SLU-PP-332 or 9Amino1q etc etc.

I do feel if I don’t take my NP thyroid (T4+T3).

Good luck, curt

Hi Curt, I think their’s was 1000mg for 250, or at least over 200, so Polaris a bit cheaper. I was surprised too they wouldn’t sell it to me due to the cancer especially since there is not much family history of cancer on either side of family, and most of that clearly related to lifestyle. I don’t know whether to be concerned now or not, but think they’re just extra cautious. I may or may not try another company - based on this thread may just give it a pass. The modafinil helps but I need something for an overall feeling of well being, not just some temporary energy. Just want to feel normal and not half sick most of the time. Good luck to you too.

@Candleflower Not remembering your previous testing, health issues, this is generic:

  • Get a full blood test to baseline all hormones; E, T, Prog, Thyroid. I find this is cheapest today: dirtcheaplabs.com the $275 full test. Draw at quest.
  • WOrk on sleep. Get a few hours / night of deep sleep. Use some measuring device.
  • Food alergy / Mold/alergy / parasite (EBV, MHV etc) testing at a local Functional clinic via an ND. This is where alot of feeling tired, sick etc comes from.
  • Alot comes from gluten, food allergy that gives a low level inflammation, ill feeling. For me its severe plus acid reflux. The SAD diet has alot of alergetic components. I’ve had to eliminate going to carnivore eating grass finished meat from piedmontese.com . Industrial vegetables from a grocery store has more anti-nutrients then one might know. Read: Toxic Super Foods by Sally Norton. Spinach is nearly poisonous depending on ones gut biota being able to digest Oxalates. Most worn out guts just can deal with the anti-nutrients today. Better to eliminate and narrow down on low inflammatory yet high nutrient dense foods.

Get mold, food , alergy tested and go from there. Few practioners are good. A Functional clinic via an ND vs a ENT that is an MD would be my first choice. MD = behind re root cause of disease (IMHO).

Good luck curt

Good luck, curt

Hi Curt, I’ve been dealing with this for so long and have done most all of these but even though I was tested for gluten, I have wondered about giving it up anyway. I tried it once for two weeks, it didn’t do anything but I’ve since read that it takes longer than that. I do have a very high early antigen that is an Epstein bar test but that is controversial a lot of doctors say that they have patients who test very high and are fine. I’ve also had a lot of inflammatory markers done and I really don’t understand why some are normal like the homosystene and CRP but interleukin 8 was quite high. Interleukin 6 was fine and I saw that mentioned a lot during Covid, but I also have a slightly high tumor necrosis factor I think it is called. My viral titers are off the charts but again that’s controversial. My doctor said it just means I have a good immune system. Think I will try no gluten again because I do have a lot of stomach issues and my brother has a sensitivity to it. . Thanks for all the information. Sounds like you have tried a lot to address your fatigue too.

@Candleflower If I where taking my own advice and was to look for a top Functional clinic lead by a top ND I would be daunted. But this is what I suggest. NDs (not MDs not nurse practioners not Physician assistants) are now well experienced with the multi symptom scenarios post covid, where yeast, mold, food alergies, autoimune, long-covid, lime are all presenting, too often in women… :frowning:

In the mean time some long covid reading: I-RECOVER: Long COVID Treatment - Independent Medical Alliance

I read an article where chronic dosing of ivermectin was a benefical general protocol.

Good luck, curt

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