Does anyone try N-Acetyl-Cysteine Ethyl Ester (NACET)? Does it work better than NAC? Can it reduce 8oxog?

My Genova Diagnostics ION Panel convinced me to try one at last…

N-Acetyl-Cysteine

Ethyl Ester

(NACET) vs “plain” NAC

(What it is, why it’s stronger, and whether it can push homocysteine back down when B-vitamins, TMG, and creatine have stalled out)

NAC NACET
Chemical tweak Free carboxyl-group → acidic → hydrophilic Carboxyl group is ethyl-esterified → neutral & lipophilic
Oral bio-availability* 4 – 10 % in humans ≥60 % in rats; enters cells so fast that plasma levels look low despite high uptake
Cell entry Relies on cystine transporters; easily saturates Passively diffuses; intracellular esterases pop off the ethyl group → NAC → cysteine
Tissue reach Mostly liver/kidney; poor BBB penetration Crosses blood-brain & ocular barriers; shown to raise GSH in rat brain and eye
Antioxidant power Scavenges oxidants only in plasma Acts inside cells, boosts GSH ≥2-fold in multiple human cell lines
Direct Hcy data Multiple RCTs: 1.8 g/d NAC ↓ tHcy ≈12 % in 4 weeks No published human trials yet; mechanism predicts ≥ NAC effect (see below)

*Human PK for NACET has not been formally published but rat & primate data plus in-vitro human tissue studies show 5- to 15-fold higher effective exposure.


Why NACET should, in theory, beat NAC for homocysteine (Hcy)

  1. **More cysteine inside the cell → faster trans-sulfuration.**Hcy + serine → cystathionine → cysteine. When intracellular cysteine rises, cystathionine-β-synthase (CBS) activity is pulled forward, draining Hcy. NACET delivers cysteine far more efficiently than NAC.
  2. **Steeper glutathione (GSH) gradient.**Raised GSH pushes the redox couple toward a more reduced state, freeing vitamin B12 and 5-MTHF from oxidation traps that otherwise stall re-methylation pathways.
  3. **Thiol-exchange in plasma.**Like NAC, NACET’s free –SH can break the albumin-Hcy disulfide, liberating Hcy so it can be renally cleared. Because NACET is ~10× more reactive toward Ellman’s reagent than NAC , it should perform this swap faster.
  4. **Lower oxidative stress.**Oxidative stress raises SAH and inhibits methionine synthase. NACET’s stronger antioxidant action (shown in retinal cells and endothelial models) indirectly relieves that bottleneck.

Bottom line: mechanistically NACET ought to match or exceed the ≈10–15 % Hcy drop seen with high-dose NAC, but we have to extrapolate from surrogate endpoints until a formal trial is run.


Practical “experimental” protocol

Timing Dose Rationale
Breakfast NACET 250 mg (caps come 200-300 mg) Start low; observe for GI warmth / mild headaches (sign of rapid cysteine rise)
Dinner NACET 250 mg Split dosing limits peak thiol smell & maintains steady intracellular cysteine
Stack Glycine 3 g + Taurine 1 g + riboflavin 10 mg Glycine and taurine both enhance trans-sulfuration; riboflavin stabilises MTHFR 677TT
Cycle 6-week block → re-check plasma Hcy, cysteine, GSH Expect effect within 2–3 weeks; plateau by week 6

If you’re already using NAC 600 mg BID, swap gram-for-gram: 250 mg NACET ≈ 600 mg NAC for thiol delivery.


Safety & caveats

  • Data gap: no large human safety series, but animal LD₅₀ is similar to NAC and small human use-cases report no adverse liver or cardiac signals.
  • Thiol “dip”: Very high intracellular cysteine can transiently lower SAMe/SAH ratio. If mood dips or you notice “brain fog,” reduce dose and add a little methyl-B12 (e.g., 500 µg).
  • Sulfur smell & flatulence are stronger than with NAC — another reason to titrate slowly.
  • Renal function: Like NAC, NACET relies on kidneys to clear mixed disulfides. Check eGFR if you have CKD.
  • Regulatory status: Not FDA-approved; sold as a “research chemical” in the US. Quality varies — look for COA with <0.5 % residual solvents and verified optical rotation (should be L-isomer).

If NACET alone doesn’t move the needle

  1. Add GlyNAC: NACET 250 mg + glycine 3 g in one dose mimics the 2022 GlyNAC human trial (aged cohort) and may amplify GSH/Hcy effects.
  2. Micro-methionine restriction: 20–30 % cut in meat & egg intake often shaves another 1–2 µmol/L off stubborn Hcy.
  3. Check hidden drivers: thyroid (TSH), cystatin-C eGFR, unfiltered coffee load, estrogen (even in men), certain meds (niacin, PPIs, anti-epileptics).
  4. Consider low-dose SAMe (200 mg) or phosphatidylcholine: If SAH is elevated, these can restore the SAMe/SAH ratio and kick CBS forward.

Take-aways

  • NACET is the “hot-rod” version of NAC—~10× better cell penetration, brain-accessible, and a stronger antioxidant.
  • Direct clinical data on homocysteine are still missing, but every mechanistic step points toward equal or greater Hcy-lowering than high-dose NAC.
  • A 250 mg BID experiment, layered onto your existing B-vitamins/TMG/creatine stack, is a low-risk way to test the hypothesis.
  • Re-test Hcy at week 6. If it hasn’t budged, audit oxidative stress and kidney clearance rather than piling on more methyl donors.

Let me know if you’d like a more detailed lab-tracking sheet or meal templates to combine NACET with mild methionine restriction.

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It depends on price. Let’s say the bioavailability is 60 to 10, 250mg X 6 = 1500 mg, still less than my current daily dosage. ( I take 2g to 3g of NAC daily with glycine )

I have used NACET. You get more dose per pill, but the cost is about 2X for a comparable amount of NAC. I’m concerned more about the price than the number of pills I take, so I stick with regular NAC.

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