Depression - effects on health

Are there any known ways to counteract the health detriments of prolonged major depression?
Indeed, antidepressants, but studies show they can affect REM-sleep - and that is exactly what I seemed to experience.

Might want to check all Rx to see if there may be negative side effects related to anxiety / depression.

Some holistic suggestions from Dr. Axe:

Problems with immune system & resulting inflammation may be a cause, so I’d work on immune system, including many vits, including probiotics, fish oil, heavy magnesium.

Also the “obvious” items such as exercise, sleeping in total darkness, possibly meditation.

A bit stronger would be to see a holistic MD, & get series of various IV, probably starting with Myers Cocktail, which would get nutrients into you, more efficiently. Sometimes there is a problem with absorption, even if you are taking the right vitamins.

Other natural approaches: PEMF, sauna (even shortly before bed;) then I’d try / experiment with CBD / THC (maybe formulas specifically for sleep.)

If none of above works, you might look into Ketamine IV series. In U.S. the past few years there are a number of K clinics; don’t know about laws / availability in other parts of world. Some results indicate K works for long-term depression.

Also examine carefully all you eat, do, to see if there are repeat items that may be contributing to depression. Obviously if possible, avoid people/situations which might increase your stress, anxiety.

For number of years, especially dogs have been used as therapy aids for stress & depression, although after having large dogs for 45 years, I wonder what side of the stress argument they fall! Yet number of studies past few years, show dogs do calm people.

Addendum: Just read more of Dr Axe’s recommendations: I avoid St John’s Wort, because like grapefruit, can have odd interactions with foods, supplements, etc.

He mentioned adaptogens: I like Rhodiola, Ashwaghanda, & Ginseng. Try to stick with better brands, preferably U.S. grown, & organic.

One warning, IMO: I would avoid going to SSRIs, just a couple of articles / studies:

Sash – Just thought of another approach: CES units:

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Thank you so much for your thoughtful and insightful response, Mike. Appreciate it tremendously! I should perhaps have mentioned that there is a clear cause for this depression of the past years (dating from a period years before I started taking Rx meds). I did not suffer from depression prior to that.
As I’ve not been able to ‘tackle’ the problems that caused the depression, I’m worried about the health-effects of such longterm, severe depression. Certainly seeing the studies over the past years indicating detrimental health effects. I’m going to take a closer look at the things you suggested in your post and read the articles you posted in the upcoming days. As I’m sure there are suggestions in your post that I could put to use - thanks so much!

The article you posted about CES is very interesting also. It reminds me of an article a friend sent me a while ago: Experimental depression treatment is nearly 80% effective in controlled study | News Center | Stanford Medicine
Definitely interesting, and I have considered seeing if I could try to find a doctor in my country that may be willing to try a similar protocol. But apparently patients were treated for half a day, once per month, so I think it would be very difficult to set that in motion here until it is a more accepted treatment. Not to mention I’m not sure if I may be a candidate, given the fact there is a clear cause for the depression.

Hope some of the info is useful.

There is always a cause for the depression.

Not sure where you live, but CES units generally cost about $300, such as:

I’ve bought a few over 20 years, & all basically work about the same. I’m not familiar with the protocol using for 1/2 day, once per month. I thought more typically is just 1/2 hour daily – and can be used while doing other activities.

Very possible you could rent the unit for say a month, usually with option to purchase after, if you found benefit.

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Another protocol; sorry I forgot in prior message.

Are you familiar with Tapping? It goes by other names; some info below, but much available online. Also you could find many online videos; probably some depression health groups, would also have feedback:

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I think Dr. Axe did a pretty good job on this one too. Two of the 13 ways to beat depression involve getting more sunlight. I think the UVB from a Sperti lamp does the job for me. I thought it years ago after I started using it and would have to quit for a long time to prove it and have never wanted to know that bad. They’re $500, which kills me, but it should work forever at 5 minutes/day.

Exercise is obvious and works but also hard sometimes. When I do it too much I have injuries.

I’m dying to know what prescription drug causes long term depression. If you don’t want to tell everybody, send me a message.

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Really? SSRI’s are great drugs helping millions of people.

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mike666, which CES would you recommend of the ones you’ve tried?

Not a surprise an allopathic MD would support SSRIs. Our opinions differ – as does the science IMO. No point in our discussing I was offering suggestion to an individual whom asked for suggestions.

For others, whom are taking, or considering one of the SSRIs, I suggest some research. Start with "death by SSRI,:

Just now I got 56,000 hits on Google Scholar. Some show benefits of SSRI, but there are also many issues raised – including many deaths. Women, as most drugs, since they are rarely properly tested with women, seem to be move vulnerable to SSRI negatives.

Searching “mass shootings with SSRI” may work, where I just found:

Sometimes the violence was just after stopping an SSRI, but not always.

I’m trying to bring an issue that people may want to think about & investigate, before just accepting a family MD, or even psychiatrist, providing Rx for an SSRI

Plenty of other explanations for violence. Maybe the underlying disease for which SSRI’s were prescribed? Maybe withdrawal symptoms?
Your alternative suggestion included St John’s wort which doesn’t do much but is a weak SSRI.

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Ah I’m sorry, my post must not have been clear. It was not a prescription drug that caused the depression. It was an invasive event that brought up longterm depression - long before I started these Rx meds. So with that in mind I doubt the Rx meds that I started taking only last year (Rapa + Empagliflozin) would have anything to do with it.

I wholeheartedly agree with you on the exercise + sunlight recommendation. Great advice, and it helped previously to combat this severe depression. In fact, I’ve started to push myself again to do an hour of outdoors exercise every day, also in darkness and rain. I tried using my NIR/red light panel, but without much effects on mood it seems. I may consider buying a Sperti lamp (I had heard of them), but I’m also looking into the option of not waiting longer and leaving a.s.a.p. for a place with more sun for a while.

Thanks so much, Mike. I’m also going to look into the CES units. This is an area I know very little about. The magnetic stimulation in the study I cited, I believe were such high doses that you’d not really be able to do it at home - makes me wonder a bit about safety also admittedly.

Nope, you were clear. I re-read and see I got it wrong, sorry.