I’ve tried cana and empa in the past, and they both seemed to make me feel chronically fatigued and seemed to interfere with results from resistance training/muscle hypertrophy, so I’ve dropped SGLT2s for now. It’s a shame because their health benefits appear to be so overwhelmingly positive.
When you are buying meds from India, you should be looking at the highest quality instead of at cost as the cost will be reduced dramatically.
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I had the same issue - I found I got it with canagliflozin, but not empagliflozin. So it may just be the medication type…
And I think by quality, since its hard to measure, go with the largest company that hopefully does business around the world… and look the company up on Wikipedia. For example:
Zydus:
Biocon:
Intas:
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On the wake of metformin: Do anti-diabetic SGLT2 inhibitors exert anti-aging effects?
Here we propose that SGLT2 inhibitors (SGLT2i), a class of drugs primarily used to treat type 2 diabetes, could also be repositioned as anti-aging senomorphic drugs (agents that prevent the extrinsic harmful effects of senescent cells). As observed for metformin, another anti-diabetic drug with established anti-aging potential, increasing evidence suggests that SGLT2i can modulate some relevant pathways associated with the aging process, such as free radical production, cellular energy regulation through AMP-activated protein kinase (AMPK), autophagy, and the activation of nuclear factor (NF)-kB/inflammasome. Some interesting pro-healthy effects were also observed on human microbiota. All these mechanisms converge on fueling a systemic proinflammatory condition called inflammaging, now recognized as the main risk factor for accelerated aging and increased risk of age-related disease development and progression. Inflammaging can be worsened by cellular senescence and immunosenescence, which contributes to the increased burden of senescent cells during aging, perpetuating the proinflammatory condition. Interestingly, increasing evidence suggested the direct effects of SGLT-2i against senescent cells, chronic activation of immune cells, and metabolic alterations induced by overnutrition (meta-inflammation). In this framework, we analyzed and discussed the multifaceted impact of SGLT2i, compared with metformin effects, as a potential anti-aging drug beyond diabetes management. Despite promising results in experimental studies, rigorous investigations with well-designed cellular and clinical investigations will need to validate SGLT2 inhibitors’ anti-aging effects.
Paywalled Paper:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1568163723002908
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Lupin Receives Tentative Approval from U.S. FDA for generic Canagliflozin Tablets
November 23, 2023
Mumbai, Baltimore, November 23, 2023: Global pharma major Lupin Limited (Lupin) today announced that it has received tentative approval from the United States Food and Drug Administration (U.S. FDA) for its Abbreviated New Drug Application for Canagliflozin Tablets, 100 mg and 300 mg, to market a generic equivalent of Invokana® Tablets, 100 mg and 300 mg, of Janssen Pharmaceuticals, Inc. This product will be manufactured at Lupin’s Pithampur facility in India.
Canagliflozin is a sodium-glucose co-transporter 2 (SGLT2) inhibitor indicated:
- as an adjunct to diet and exercise to improve glycemic control in adults with type 2 diabetes mellitus
- to reduce the risk of major adverse cardiovascular events in adults with type 2 diabetes mellitus and established cardiovascular disease
- to reduce the risk of end-stage kidney disease, doubling of serum creatinine, cardiovascular death, and hospitalization for heart failure in adults with type 2 diabetes mellitus and diabetic nephropathy with albuminuria
Canagliflozin Tablets(RLD Invokana®)had estimated annual sales of USD 561 million in the U.S. (IQVIA MAT September 2023).
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I stared taking empagliflozin 10mg. Felt hungry on it at the end of the day - I guess my body guessed there was less calories in me compared to what I ate. Unfortunately I got a fungal infection - an unpleasant but known side effect. I spoke to one of the drug reps for the company and they reassured me this usually a one off thing but hey their job is to sell the product. I think I will have to stop - I think this will happen again as I am on Rapamycin. I may take it if I know I will be eating lots of carbs like pasta but but diet is fairly low carb ( not keto ). I already take metformin long acting so I’m not sure this is for me.
Not sure if others are thinking of sglt2 inhibitors but just letting everyone know there are side effects with these drugs.
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Too bad. I have Empagligozin at home since few months and wanting to try it but was afraid of getting bacterial or fungal infection. Now I am even more reluctant to try.
Hope you are ok now and that it wasn’t too unpleasant.
I just want to add to this. I’ve been taking Cana as a longevity agent for about 2 years. Only side effect I’ve had (and continue to have) is if I eat alot of carby foods, my urine smells “sweet”, which is not really a surprise. It also lowered my nighttime glucose level, which for unknown reasons would spike in the middle of the night during sleep before coming down to normal by the AM. (I used a CGM or never would have known this.) I’m not and never was insulin insensitive. Since Cana, I don’t get those nighttime peaks anymore. I’ve gone through a couple of periods where I experienced fatigue, but I can’t attribute it to the Cana; it could have been anything. Both times resolved itself after a couple of months and I haven’t felt that fatigue in several months.
I orignially started with 100mg, 1x day, now I break the 300’s in half and take half (150mg) once each day. When I first started it, I lost about 7 pounds over the ensuing early weeks, now I eat whatever I want and my weight remains consistent, regardless of what I eat or how much I exercise (or not).
From where I sit, the data continues to be encouraging and I have no plans to switch to Empa or anything else…
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Does anyone know if it’s safe to split the 25mg Empagliflozin for a half dose? Thanks!
Yes, you can do that.
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It seems that Yes…
EMP-25 tablet is relatively a flat elongated tablet making splitting easier . Using preferably a pill-cutter, the patients were shown how to cut the EMPA-25 tablet into two halves
Source: Treatment Outcomes of Graded Dose of Empagliflozin in Type-2 Diabetes: A Real World Study - PMC
More:
- Empagliflozin 25mg tablets. Dispense 45 to last 90d. Take ½ = 12.5mg daily to prevent complications of type 2 diabetes.
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- Empagliflozin vs Linagliptin
- I switched from empagliflozin about 3 months ago because I was concerned that empagliflozin might be hindering or even lowering muscle mass gains.
- Since metformin is known to retard muscle mass increases from resistance training, I didn’t need two things slowing the results from resistance training.
- The main difference I have found is that linagliptin does not lower fasting glucose as much as empagliflozin.
FWIW: Linagliptin is about half the price of empagliflozin.
Just something to consider, I am not recommending anything.
- Empagliflozin
- Provides better glycemic control than linagliptin
- Decreases more muscle mass and total body water than linagliptin
- Provides clinically relevant placebo-corrected reductions in HbA1c
- Linagliptin
- Improves insulin secretion
- Reduces glucagon production
- Slows gastric emptying
- Promotes satiety
- Reduces appetite
- Lacks severe hypoglycemia
- Weight neutral
- Well tolerated
- Slows down renal progression
- Improves renal disease
Empagliflozin And Linagliptin (Oral Route) Description and Brand Names - Mayo Clinic.
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Hi!
Curretly taking Jardiance 25mg, I started it something like 2 years ago. Great med. You pee a little bit more but my blood sugar is way more stable (checked by FreeStyle 2). I’m in France, and it’s only 38€ a month (something like 45 dollars), and 100% payed by the social care service.
I really enjoyed this médication, hope it will protect my heart and kidneys
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Do you have T2D or are you taking it just for longevity?
I’m taking it for longevity and health purpose only. I’m 21!
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I really appreciate your thorough and well-researched responses.
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I saw below in a talk given by Harvard’s Prof Vadim Gladyshev
Does any know what the SGLT2i aging clinical trial where they are measuring epigentic age is? The seventh from the top.
(How about the rapa trial, the eighth from the top)
From here (you may enjoy the overall talk)
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“Sotogliflozin (Inpefa) in addition to SGLT2 blockade it also blocks SGLT1, which is primarily located in the intestinal wall.“
Anyone know anything about this Sglt2 inhibitor?
No. But I think Cana that was used in the ITP with success also has some SGLT1-inhibition and that the other ones generally do not do SGLT1-i, but only SGLT2-i.
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Its not available in India yet. And strangely it was withdrawn from the EU this year, the same year it was approved in the US…