Anyone trying something a little more edgy?

I use this SPF50+ every time I go out in the sun more than a few minutes Beauty of Joseon: Authentic Hanbang Korean Skincare Products

I got through the Australian summer, it’s officially over and we’re moving into autumn :partying_face: I can be more aggressive with retinoids and actives, and sleep better now.

I don’t have any actinic keratosis spots.

I’ve never done a professional level peel. Something I might consider when I have some time off work. I’m not going to work with my face falling off lmao.

Have you done one before?

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No, only self inflicted area peels done from watching YouTube videos. Worked out fine for my purposes

interested in the pineal rejuvenating potential of this - did you continue with epithalon?

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I did it for 60+ days when I was trying out peptides. No subjective results were felt. I didn’t have my genome tested so I don’t know if it lengthed my telomeres or not and I don’t even know telomere lengthening is good or not.Then I moved on to other injectable peptides.

The results were meh, except for Tirzepatide, it worked quite well as I think most GLPs do. It definitely killed my appetite. I stopped taking it because I don’t really need it and it is still expensive from online gray sources, but still a fraction of the cost of Ozempic.

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@desertshores will you dm me where you sourced it? Almost out of Ozempic and might switch to Terzepitide

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Have you tried pinealon?

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Tirz has a better side effect profile and is more efficacious than semaglutide (Ozempic)

It also has superior beneficial off target effects (for the most part.)

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“Have you tried pinealon?”. No, I haven’t tried that one.

Kratom anyone? I’m heading to Mexico for some dental work. Kratom supposedly has both stimulating and pain relieving properties, which should improve the travel experience.

I’ve done injectable epitalon and BPC157. Didn’t notice much from either tbh. but I’m interested in trying oral epitalon, BPC157 and pinealon. I’ve heard good things.

Oral BPC157 in particular seems good for healing the gut lining, I was going to do this in conjunction with an intense prebiotic and probiotic protocol. I’ve also read good things about BPC157 oral and injectable with helping heal dopaminergic neurons which is something I’m interested in due to having ADHD and using stimulant medication for ADHD.

I’ve seen a lot of anecdotal reports from people that they became addicted to it and the tapering off, quitting and withdrawal process was painful. Not worth starting IMO.

I feel the same way about kava root. I tried that a few times and it really felt good and was a good social lubricant similar to alcohol but less inebriating. When I told someone I was using it they told me stories of people becoming dependent on it for social interaction and I never ever want to be reliant on a substance to be able to talk to people and have a good time with people.

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Yes, by all accounts, it can be addictive. But many people manage it quite well, especially a low dose of 2-3 capsules a day for something like three consecutive days. I’m having implants, and implant pain is chronic and acute. I can’t take ibuprofen, so I’m willing to try something else.

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Which part of Mexico did you choose for your dental work? Is it safe to travel there?

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Los Algodones, not far from Yuma. Yes, it is the safest of all the border cities. The town doesn’t tolerate any nonsense because dental tourism is its economic lifeline.

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I also wanted to go to Mexico but then decided to do it in Prague for safety reasons. What clinic are you going to use? Will appreciate if you could share some details by DM.

What’s a good supplier for oral BPC-157? I too wanted to improve my gut lining. Thanks!

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Also curious. I’ve been told you can simply use BPC157 from peptide vials but I’d find capsules or tablets easier. Every source I’ve found is quite expensive compared to the vials.

I’m also confused on what form is best.

I’ve seen it touted that BPC157 in the arginate/arginine salt form is best.

There is one brand, LVL Up, that has great ingredients that I want to try, but I’m unsure what the quality is like. It’s also expensive but if that isn’t an issue then go for it.

They have BPC157 arginine salt combined with palmitoylethanolamide (PEA), sodium bicarbonate and hyaluronic acid: https://lvluphealth.com/product/re-generate/

And the one that I really wanted to try which combines many great sounding ingredients for gut healing - Ultimate GI Repair: BPC157 arginine salt, KPV peptide, lazarotide, GHK-Cu peptide, tributyrin, quercetin, sodium bicarbonate and zinc L-carnosine: https://lvluphealth.com/product/ultimate-gi-repair/

It looks really good but perhaps the other ingredients will obfuscate the effects of BPC157 by itself.

There was Peptide Sciences but they have recently shut down. Probably targeted by regulatory agencies and shut down to avoid prosecution.

There are many clinics you can seek to get peptides from but they will be even more expensive.

I have seen a brand promoted on Twitter/X I was going to share here but it just says “pentadeca sequence” and this has me concerned because I’ve seen fake versions of peptides advertised online that were literally just individual amino acid powders blended into a capsule, but clearly a peptide is a specially organized sequence of peptides.

The problem I outlined above about individual amino acids being falsely labelled as a proper peptide complex is more of an issue with no name brands found on places like Amazon (this is a review on a completely different product from the above):

I know this is longwinded but here is the brand I’ve seen promoted on Twitter/X. It seems decent but then I see it listing some of their peptides as amino acids. There doesn’t seem to be a standard way of labelling peptides on ingredients lists/supplement facts so it is all a bit disorienting.

I have never seen “BPC Amino Acid Complex” as a standard in BPC157 oral form.

Their BPC157 product:

Their pinealon product:

If you were interested in looking at that brand here is a link: Restore BPC | 500 mcg | 60 Capsules – Your Protocol

I currently cannot budget $150-300 for BPC 157 capsules, so I was curious if anyone had a reputable option that was more affordable.

Have you considered making your own caps from powder? I source pure Melatonin powder from Bulk Supplements and make up 100 caps at a time. Each cap is ~300mg. At ~1gm / day, that’s ~1 month supply. The process takes 10-15 mins. It’s much cheaper than buying retail. And means I am only swallowing 3x Melatonin caps per day (versus 100x 10mg pills). If interested, happy to provide more info.

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Clinically, there are sporadic cases of patients being hospitalized with severe hemorrhagic gastroenteritis, high fevers, or even sepsis after ingesting homemade herbal powders or supplement capsules contaminated by household bacteria. Because a home environment cannot replicate industrial-grade zero-humidity, powder immediately becomes a breeding ground for bacteria and mold once it absorbs moisture from the air. If you absolutely must make your own capsules, it is highly recommended to strictly control the temperature and humidity, and to thoroughly sanitize all tools, including the scraping plates.

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There is an advantage to not taking is all in one go.

Has anyone had any experience with atomoxetine? I asked this question about 3 years ago but didn’t get any response from atomoxetine users. It has some extra benefits that modafinil doesn’t address.

I am thinking about changing from modafinil to atomoxetine. Or adding it to modafinil, since they work in different ways.

Detailed Analysis of Cognitive Effects
Atomoxetine: Enhancing Control Over Impulsivity and Attention
Atomoxetine’s mechanism is more targeted than modafinil’s. It works primarily by blocking the norepinephrine transporter (NET), which increases the availability of both norepinephrine and dopamine in the prefrontal cortex (PFC)—the brain’s “executive center”. This boosts PFC function, which is often described as improving the “signal-to-noise ratio” for cognitive processes. This translates to potential improvements in:
Response Inhibition and Impulsivity: This is one of atomoxetine’s most robust effects. It helps to reduce premature, impulsive actions, which is a hallmark of ADHD.
Working Memory and Attentional Set-Shifting: Studies suggest it can improve the ability to hold and manipulate information and to adaptively shift focus between different tasks or rules.
Attention: In preclinical models, atomoxetine has been shown to improve sustained attention and spatial memory in both young and aged subjects.
Based on one mouse study, it may help prevent sarcopenia as a side effect.