Took it again today but didn’t really feel it. I didn’t combine it with alpha GPC today and I think that is why. Also I am running on 5 hours sleep after a long night shift so I’m a bit burned out.
I strongly think combining galantamine with alpha GPC or another choline source is necessary to get the full effect I seek.
Are you still using this? This one looks really good.
Yes, I take that daily in the morning. The effects are cumulative (rodent study).
For choline, I take alpha gpc, CDP Choline (citicholine), and sunflower lecithin. Also eggs.
Very interested on the plasmapheresis experience, did you then posted a full write up?
Now doing plasma donation once a month, being plasmapheresis in italy only an hospital-procedure and no possibility to obtain a off-label doctor uses.
The national health system here pay the hospital a reimbursement between 600 to 900 euro, when I read of the $10k/session in SF i told myself WTF?!?
I was already dreaming a TPE monthly session, with in parallel blood sampling for blood work, with in-parallel IV drip of something worth to IV.
Gotta like that sunflower lecithin.
Been on it for 5 years or more nightly. Makes huge loads for a guy. Granted online information says it’s inconclusive… but my buds and I agree… when off it… less jizz and watery. Our N=1.
Back on it… ropes. Just sayin.
PROFIT what the medical system is in the US/ Western System.
At 600 to 900 euro they still make a profit.
Selling the sizzle of TPE to the masses thinking it is a extension of lifespan. They see steak with the sizzle, in my view what they will find is expensive hamburger.
Where did you see the cost for $5.00?
Looked, it is $16 or $18 did not see $5.00.
My mistake - its $5 for regular CRP test, but it’s $9 for HS - CRP plus the blood draw fee, but thats shared with all other tests you are doing at the same time.
See here: Plasmapheresis Startup Looking for Clinical Trial Participants SF Bay Area - #86 by RapAdmin
I think if one looks at more tests it’s clear that hs-CRP is an outlier. Here are two recent panels that I compared to see if I should switch to GoodLabs. For me, the answer is no (but that’s partly because I get a lot of labs done!).
Edit: all the numbers below are US Dollars. TLDR, Fitomics saves me a few hundred a year vs GoodLabs.
| Panel 1 | GoodLabs | Fitomics | Notes | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Iron & TBIC | 12 | 13 | Fitomics includes ferritin | |
| Ferritin | 11 | |||
| TSH | 9 | 5.98 | 5.98 | |
| Testosterone Free & Total, LC/MS | 70 | 22.48 | 22.48 | |
| SHBG | 16.99 | Goodlabs SHBG is in the Testosterone panel | ||
| T3, Free | 32 | 6.98 | ||
| Estradiol, Sensitive | 45 | 33.95 | ||
| DHEA-Sulfate | 8 | 7.9 | ||
| IGF-1 with Z score | 36 | 13.86 | ||
| CBC with differential | 3 | 2.9 | ||
| Reverse T3 | 32 | 12.93 | ||
| PSA | 12 | 5.53 | ||
| Lipid panel | 10 | 23.56 | Fitomics is lipid panel with ApoB | |
| ApoB | 8 | |||
| CMP14 | 5 | 4.9 | ||
| GoodLabs | Fitomics | |||
| Subtotal | 293 | 170.96 | ||
| Discount | -34.19 | |||
| Total | 293 | 136.77 | ||
| Panel 2 | GoodLabs | Fitomics | ||
| hs-CRP | 6 | 8.99 | ||
| Testosterone, Equilibrium Dialysis | 80 | 56.82 | ||
| GGT | 5 | 3.98 | ||
| Insulin | 10 | 7.64 | ||
| Iron Panel with Ferritin | 23 | 13 | ||
| CMP 14 | 5 | 4.9 | ||
| ApoB | 8 | 7.9 | ||
| Lipid Profile | 10 | 6.98 | ||
| Estradiol, Sensitive | 45 | 33.95 | ||
| CBC | 3 | 2.9 | ||
| IGF-1 | 36 | 13.86 | ||
| hbA1C | 6 | 5.17 | ||
| Cystain C | 71 | 19.76 | ||
| Homocystine | 53 | 22.68 | ||
| GoodLabs | Fitomics | |||
| Total | 361 | 208.53 | ||
| 2 panel total | 654 | 345.3 | ||
| Assume at least 2 more per year | 1308 | 690.6 | ||
| Fitomics annual fee | 200 | |||
| Total | 1308 | 890.6 | Fitomics saves | 417.4 |
It is hard to say anything without the units. I do weekly blood tests they cost between GBP150 and GBP200 per week.
It’s all dollars. I’ll edit it.
Thanks. In the UK there tends to be a discount for doing a number of tests together rather than individual pricing.
Does the chart include the membership fee for Fitomics, since Goodlabs doesn’t require one? Also, are these the prices for Fitomics w/LabCorp or w/Quest? I was doing Fitomics w/Quest and then switched to GoodLabs because of lower prices. The Labcorp prices are cheaper than Quest via Fitomics, but at least in my area LabCorp is a train wreck while Quest totally has their sh*t together.
I put the fee in the last row there: $200 a year. That was a special. The price may have gone back up to $300, but it includes other perks, like a premium cronometer membership, $50 a year otherwise.
There are also monthly membership and quarterly membership rates that I think are $30 and $75.
Those are all LabCorp prices for both services. Where I live, LabCorp is run really well, whereas Quest is a disaster. Regional management, I guess.
Fitomics will add any LabCorp test you ask for to the catalog. I’ve asked for 3 so far, including sirolimus. Usually they add the test the same day. Their service is so great that I have signed up for their Direct Primary Care, “Fitcare.” I would consider their coaching if I didn’t already have a coach.
The savings are actually a lot more for me than the table indicates because I tend to get labs every couple months. I based the table only on 4 panels.
They also run sales every few weeks, 10-30% off and you can put in unlimited orders that are good for 6 months.
They were not able to get a good pricing deal with quest. They offer quest, but I would go elsewhere for that.
Don’t forget: they’re very responsive by email, you can later add to your requisitions or move tests around between requisitions.
I’m curious if anyone has feedback on the Fitomics “ Male Advanced Healthspan Panel” and “ Male Healthspan Panel”. I helped sort out which tests to include there so I’m curious how this group thinks about such broad testing. The intention was to cover just about any test Attia and others in the longevity and healthspan spaces have discussed. “Advanced” is quite over inclusive but good value. The non-advanced is more focused but still quite a lot of tests.
Advanced healthspan panel includes:
Lipid Profile with Non-HDL Cholesterol (includes VLDL calculation)
Apolipoprotein B
ADMA/SDMA
Thyroglobulin Antibodies
Creatine Kinase
Cystatin C
Fibrinogen Activity
Homocyst(e)ine
Lp-PLA2 Activity
Magnesium (RBC)
Non-HDL-C
NT-proBNP
rT3 (Reverse T3)
Total Bilirubin
Uric acid
Vitamin B12 and Folate
Free, Total Testosterone (LC/MS)
Estradiol, Sensitive / Ultrasensitive (LC/MS)
Sex Hormone Binding Globulin (SHBG)
Progesterone
Prolactin
Cortisol
Luteinizing Hormone (LH)
Follicle-Stimulating Hormone (FSH)
Dehydroepiandrosterone Sulfate (DHEA-S)
Prostate Specific Antigen (PSA)
TSH
Free T4
Free T3
Insulin-Like Growth Factor I (IGF-1)
Lipoprotein(a)
Complete Blood Count w/ Differential
Comprehensive Metabolic Panel
Insulin
HbA1c
γ-Glutamyl Transferase (GGT)
Creatinine w/ eGFR
Vitamin D, 25-OHD (25-Hydroxy)
Iron+TIBC
Ferritin
C-Reactive Protein, High Sensitivity (hsCRP)
The regular healthspan panel includes:
Lipid Profile With Non-HDL Cholesterol (VLDL calculation included)
Apolipoprotein B
Lipoprotein(a)
Complete Blood Count w/ Differential
Metabolic Panel (14), Comprehensive
Cystatin C
Estradiol, Sensitive
Prostate Specific Antigen (PSA)
Thyroglobulin Antibody
Homocyst(e)ine
Uric Acid
Free, Total Testosterone (LC/MS)
Luteinizing Hormone (LH) & Follicle-Stimulating Hormone (FSH)
TSH + Free T4
Triiodothyronine (T3), Free
Insulin
Hemoglobin (Hb) A1c With eAG
Vitamin D, 25-OHD
Ferritin
C-Reactive Protein, High Sensitivity (hsCRP)
I’ve been asking myself, isn’t weekly puncturing the veins with a needle not gives enough time for a recovery?
How do you balance this little damage being done vs the recovery?
Fabio
Agent, this is excellent information. Thx for the cost comparison!
I used Goodlabs last week and have been very impressed so far. It sounds like fitnomics has docs and coaches, so they seem to have a definite edge (in addition to cost).
Right now, if you are in SF, if you donate blood, you can get some free labs at the same time. In 2026, they are adding NYC and LA to their donation (and free labs) sites
I have been uploading my past labs on GL and playing with having their AI analyze my results. I have also been emailing with them with questions and they have been incredibly responsive. They are very open to any feedback on how to improve their site, so if anyone sees any shortcomings or areas for improvement, don’t hesitate sending it their way.
I should note, I don’t know if their AI does anything ChatGPT won’t do, but so far I think it’s really great, even if no where near perfect.
I emailed them if they can add more labs if we contact them. If it’s a yes, I’ll pop back on and share it.
Also, if anyone is using GL for the first time, do get a referral code for 20% off. It will be great to see if they eventually offer sales like fitnomics.
The interventions I use provide accelerated healing (particularly citrate supplementation). There are photos on this web page
https://citrate.science/2024poster/poster.html
I asked Good Labs if they could add additional labs they don’t have listed like Fitnomics does. I’m so glad this was mentioned here because it never occurred to me to ask. Last week, without knowing this was possible, I waaaaay overpaid for an additional expensive test.
They said:
“Yes, we do accept test requests. We’re working on getting to a point where we can do a 1 day turnaround or so on tests, but until then, you can just email me and I will add it if we have the capability”