Yes - definitely changes it, but I still like it. Most coffee aficionados are probably not going to like my coffee.
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I do 6gm of Taurine, 5 gm of creatine, NAC 800 mg, L lysine, glycine, Spermidine, Amla powder with collagen peptide, 1 tsp of Cocoa extract and CaAKGā¦then make a shot of espresso using dark roast Illy or Lavazza before I hit the home gym with bright light exposure.
Before I do that I do check morning HRV using Morpheus which I love BTW.
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First two cups in a large mug. Medium roast Arabica Blend.
Add:
- 11 g of collagen powder
- 1 g of TMG
- 5 g of Glycine
- 5 g of Creatine
Next two cups in a large mug about 3 hours later:
- Magnesium Citrate
- 5 g of Taurine
- 500 mg of L-Carnosine
- 11 g of Chocolate Whey Powder
Donāt expect to taste much of the coffee in either, but you do get the caffeine.
Evening tea:
2 cups of water boiled with a decaf tea.
Add:
- 5 g of Glycine
- 8 g of Citrulline Malate
It ends up tasting like a fruit lemonade.
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On doctorās orders I now drink decaf coffee. (The caffeine can set off atrial fibrillation.)
I make up a very large mug of it. I use a non-sugar sweetener. I add cream, half teaspoon of citrulline, a quarter teaspoon of reduced glutathione and a teaspoon of taurine.
I like the taste! So much so, that, last week I made up a coffee but without the supplements. The taste was ābleeaauuggh!ā
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I am one of those guys who like specialty coffee, a niche by itself, and coffee-making in the morning is a ritual, with something called a Hario-switch, temperature-controlled water, scale, hand-grinder and so on.
typically, specialty coffees are high-altitude, low-caffeine, high in chlorogenic acid and have many different tastes. I also like to buy them in artistic packages, to add some color to the morning routine.
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Have you tried that ācat-turdā coffee? Thatās meant to be fairly ānicheā and special!
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They use civets
Natureland Wild Civet Arabica Coffee Whole Beans, Freshly Made Luxury Kopi Luwak Coffee Bean, Dark Roast Kopi Luwak Coffee Gifts, Produce in best regions of Vietnam, 4oz /113 grams, Civet Coffee, Luxury Cat Poop Coffee.
The civets digest the flesh of the coffee cherries but pass the beans inside, where stomach enzymes affect the beans. This adds to the coffeeās prized aroma and flavor.[6] About 0.5 kg (1 lb) can cost up to $600 in some parts of the world and about $100 a cup in others.[8]
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I see, understood. Iām a diva about my sleep, no problem there, lol.
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Kopi Luwak is pretty controversial.
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On the note of all these answersā¦ and this is probably the wrong group to ask this of because you all can ruin your coffee and still be happy drinking it, well, maybe with the exception of @DrT :)ā¦.
Has anyone shared a great recipe of some good but strong tasting sludge to add all these powders to mask the taste? Iām thinking along the lines of chocolate syrup or something? Putting stuff in my protein shakes has only taught me to hate protein shakes :).
Iāve recently gone all in on the million supplements a day as you all haveā¦ and loading my little pill packs is getting old, (got old on day 1 :), and I see that powders are a FRACTION of the cost, and I like the idea of no fillersā¦
I assume if there was this magical mixer, you all wouldnāt be ruining a perfectly great cup of coffee :).
@mccoy Iām all in on my espresso set up tooā¦ have not even heard of a hand grinder, but I do have the scale :).
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I can never take anything with my coffee (other than little milk, and little raw sugar) because it doesnāt taste like coffee. I do load my mid-day shake though with all kinds of things/powders and spices and it yet tastes delicious.
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Tell me about it. Iāve started to think that MOST are useless and thinking of reducing them to about 6-7 main ones daily (have 40-50 in my cabinet). Also, have come to conclusion that meds are not to be taken just for sake of getting blood markers to very low levels, so long as the markers are within normal range, which mine all are. Iāve experienced some nasty sides on Empa, LDL lowering drugs and Iāve decided to ditch them, unless my markers go in the wrong direction. Iām still keeping 5mg Cialis, and Occasional RAPA. no other meds for me but tempted to try finasteride as Iām in high risk for PC. Iāve started to convince myself that less is better with meds, food, and even exercise. The only thing that seems to be more is better is sleep and I have to work on getting a nice 8h nightly.
Iām however intrigued about the peptides and been buying them like crazy. so far Iāve only used Rt and Semax and both seem to be doing great things. Have about 10-15 different ones coming in in next day or so. Will see what happens when I start using them.
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I am absolutely loving this
You: Iām not going to take as many supplements
Also you: I have 15 different peptides on order
Ahhh, I have found my people 
On a serious note, I have so many little things wrong with me that all my rxās and many supplements seem to be helping. But, of course itās hard to tease out which things are having the impact.
Iām sleeping like a champ (lifelong issue and itās hard for me come to terms with my new identity as someone who isnāt an insomniac), and have more energy than I have had in years, so while Iām with you on most probably add no value, I hesitate to tinker because all of these benefits are so new for me. If I were a patient person without ADD I would have added things one at a time so Iād know what helps, but alas, that aināt me
I will eventually tinker because the cost of all this will get old quickly, but for now, it remainsā¦
I watched the Attia video on klothoā¦ have you considered that one? It seems like a win, but Iām also trying to slow my roll to finish absorbing all Iām currently taking before adding something new.
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Peptides are more like meds, not supplements.
You: Iām sleeping like a champ (lifelong issue and itās hard for me come to terms with my new identity as someone who isnāt an insomniac),
ME: Please do tell what have you done and are doing that you are getting such good results with sleep?
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Also,
Just funny
Last night I handed my husband 5 taurine and 2 mag pills and said try this because they seem to be helping my sleep
He grabbed one, thinking it was a stash for a nightly pillā¦ I said no, you take all of themā¦ he looked at me like I was a raving lunatic
@RapMet Iāll be back in a bit to share my sleep saga
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NOPE and it will stay that way. As pointed out above, Iām NOT going to do any new supplements, other than peptides (unless you can convince me that certain ones are good for sleep lol). Will continue with most well known ones but no new ones for me.
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Early riser, 4 to 5am. I cup of black and 1 cup of hot cocoa, plain. Glass of water in same time frame, sometimes adulterated with MgBHB for a ketone boost. Sometimes a bit of dark chocolate with first coffee. Later in the morning 1 cup of black decaf coffee and 1 cup of decaf tea (green and black combo). Often repeat the decaf coffee and teas in afternoon. I eat first meal 10 to 11 am. Morning exercise corresponds to sunrise - brisk 20 minute walk following 15 minutes light to moderate exercise indoors. I will also take 500 to 1000 mg taurine with my first coffee. Theanine on rare occasions when I have a second caffeinated coffee. Lately been adding a little creatine to my decaf coffee.
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ha, well, klotho is a peptide!!
You: not interested in the supplement klotho
Also you: oh, klotho is a peptide? *adds to cart
Ok, sleep!! Iāll overshare and state some obvious things just in the hope you can glean one thing. You can skip my verbal vomit and scroll to the end!
My main issue has mostly been staying asleep and not falling asleep. Spent decades taking ambien. Once I learned that was bad for me, I switched to edibles for a year or two. Then I learned trazadone provides healthy sleep, so I switched to that. This transition meant a lot of sub 4 hours of sleep nights and I was a zombie.
Prior to starting rapa in April, I had done a few things the prior year or three that helped. I was still having plenty of very bad nights, but it was still a big improvement.
I started taking progesterone which help a bit .
After listening to a Huberman podcast that explained how light can negatively effect our ability to fall back to sleep, I have a setting on my LED lights that turns them red, so now, if I need to use the bathroom in the middle of the night, I have a pathway of low level red. (No idea if this works)
I installed black out drapes. They were not done perfectly, but itās enough to make the room black if my eyes are shut. I also cover any objects that emit light in my room, like a light switch, the phone charger, or the light on the smoke detector. Once things were dark, it was noticeable how much those little things were bothering me.
When I couldnāt sleep, ruminating about the fact I couldnāt sleep or just my mind wandering would stress me out, so, I discovered if I listen to a monotone speaker in a science-y or news-y podcast (nothing too entertaining that kept me upā¦ Huberman was great for this), I would focus on that and it would take my anxiety away. Focusing on something and trying to listen would actually lull me to sleep, eventually.
On that note, in order to have time periods in the middle of the night when I was up that was not negativity affecting the total sleep hours I could potentially get, I started to go to bed earlier so that if I was up for two hours, I could still theoretically get 8 hours in, even if it rarely happened. That took the anxiety of not sleeping away because I knew I could eventually get all the sleep I want.
Along with that, I realized that no matter what time I go to sleep, I almost never sleep past 6:30, and usually not that late. So now, I try to go to sleep incredibly early which increases my odds of getting over 6 hours in. This has been one of the biggest tricks for me.
No caffeine drinks after 9am. Not much chocolate after lunch.
I keep the room cold and because my room canāt get cold enough (I prefer 63 for sleep but that doesnāt happen here) I invested in a cold mattress (THIS was the single best thing Iāve done for my sleep!!! I repeat, THIS is the single best thing Iāve done for my sleep!!!)
Unless we are out to dinner socially, my last meal is often by 3, and definitely by 5. I sleep significantly better on a very empty stomach. At most, I probably now have 3 glasses of wine per month, if that much, because Oura has shown me what it does to my sleep. I sadly find myself turning down social engagements constantly because I know it means I wonāt sleep well, ARGH. Why donāt people want to do lunches!! This does hurt my social connections which is bad for longevity, but it helps my sleep, so???
This balance is my biggest challenge right now!
At this point I was still having plenty of sub 5 hours of sleep nights, but I was often getting 6 and sometimes the elusive 7. And then enters rapa into my life!!!
After the cold mattress, rapa has been the second best thing Iāve done for my sleep!!!
Life changing.
I then also started taking my last pills by aprox 6 so I can helpfully not have to get up to use the bathroomā¦ getting out of bed is usually the kiss of death for me, even with my low red lights.
And then, through this forum, I then added melatonin which also helped.
At this point, post rapa, I was at times getting 8 hours of sleepā¦ sub 5 hours has became a rarityā¦ I am now at the point where I barely take trazadone (that was never a nightly thing only because I am tired during the day if I take it).
My glucose spikes post meals are now very much under control (no idea if that affects sleep)
I am now taking more magnesium before bed and have been upping my taurine. I am not sure which one, or both, but my sleep has entered the next level the last month or two (probably jinxing that now!). Some people seem to get energy from taurine, so I will eventually experiment with taking it earlier, but I am afraid to mess with my secret sauce for now.
Over the past few months, Iāve started to hit 8 hours much more frequently, and wait for itā¦ Iāve hit 9 multiple times!! I had not seen 9 hours since the 80s :). My PT will also say heās helping me in all sorts of invisible ways, and because heās pure magic, I actually think his voodoo probably works (only sorry that I canāt share him)
Since the time change and having it get dark so early, Iām now even going to bed earlier (Iām a barrel of fun!). (I often get up at 3am and have slept for 7 hours
So, to wrap up, I imagine all these things have helped, but how much to attribute to each thing is unknown
Cold mattress and rapa are the definitely the two biggest things, by a mile.
Dark room (also no phone calls and bright lights before bed)
Going to bed early
On the now less frequent event that Iām up and canāt fall back to sleep, just stop stressing and turn a podcast on (speaking of stress, I MUST have ambien in my nightstand because I sleep better knowing I have the option of a sure thingā¦ I was recently at a hotel and forgot to bring it and called my husband in a panic :). I probably have 4 a year, but I sleep better knowing the option is there!)
Donāt consume liquids after 6pm-ish unless Iām out
Maybe magnesium and taurine before bed.
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I have same problem and employ much of the same. One other thing that seems to work for me, as I was so obsessive, is to stop caring so much. When I wake up just try not to let it bother me. I also do a bit of slow breathing with longer out breathes than in breathes which can help slow heart rate and has a feed back to the brain.
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