My first thought is don’t trust anything CNN says.
Hahaha… exactly.
But as I remember some on here are looking for weight loss options for longevity… thought this was worth at least a quick mention. Not a headline though. Lol
Buyer - beware!
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Can’t have fat people become thin and healthy now, can we?
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Personally I have done the the real fix… eat less calories… burn off more energy/calories - get reduced stored fat - adipose tissue (gym, walking, etc.). Not a quick fix… slow and steady over years… but it is a permanent fix and once you achieve your weight goal… you can splurge often!
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Anecdotally, it seems to me that when I’m out in public (e.g. on the bus) I’m seeing more people that have very large BMIs (like BMI of 35+) & also young adults that are very large. Is this something that anyone else has noticed?
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This is a serious true epidemic for which I see no fix coming anytime soon. These drugs will help a little in the meantime.
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That’s Fox (not CNN) interviewing a physician. The case study is from Texas Tech U.
Gastroparesis is a disease with variable presentations ranging from mild nausea and abdominal fullness to recurrent vomiting and abdominal pain symptoms. 4 The diagnosis requires evidence of delayed GE based on a radionuclide study using an isotope-labeled solid meal for 4-hour duration in addition to the absence of mechanical obstruction. Hence, workup generally includes upper and sometimes lower endoscopies. Prolonged DM (>10 years) can cause GP due to neuronal damage which is irreversible and a result of prolonged uncontrolled blood glucose levels.**3,4 Several medications such as proton pump inhibits, anti-Parkinson’s medications, illicit drugs (marijuana), opioids, and GLP-1 receptor agonists have been associated with delayed GE. It is crucial to identify causative drugs as discontinuation of the drug can result in resolution of the symptoms as seen in the 2 cases described above. However, in diabetics, it can be tricky owing to the fact that both diabetes and GLP-1 receptor agonists (an agent for diabetes management) can cause delayed GE;
Table 1.
Gastric emptying study results.
Before stopping semaglutide 0.5 mg/SC weekly
Time Percentage retained Normal values
1 hour 93% <90% and >30%
4 hours 24% <10%
After stopping semaglutide 0.5 mg/SC weekly for 6 weeks
1 hour 77% <90% and >30%
4 hours 6% <10%
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Obvious thought: diet and exercise don’t have these nasty side effects.
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You found the cure to obesity. Why has no one else ever thought about this before?
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(shrug) Everybody want to be thin, don’t nobody want to lift no heavy-ass weight and not put the donut in their mouth.
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Rather naive to think will power will fix the world’s problems.
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Scientists Reveal New Weight Loss Hack: Drink This Berry Juice Every Day To Burn More Fat
Study involved 19 volunteers. They had to have BMI greater than 25 (classified as overweight).
Study in the link below:
We previously demonstrated that 600 g of blackberries per day for 1 week both increases insulin sensitivity, as evidenced by a meal tolerance test, and also increases fat oxidation, demonstrated via a reduction in the respiratory quotient from 24 h of indirect calorimetry [12]. The same observations were not unequivocally reproduced by a mixed-berry intervention [13]. Therefore, anthocyanin type and daily dose require further scrutiny to determine which anthocyanins and at what threshold doses may offer benefit to weight management and glucose homeostasis.
We recently studied elderberry juice due to its remarkably high density of cyanidin-based anthocyanins [14]. In that pilot study, we demonstrated tolerability of 177.5 g of elderberry juice daily for 1 week, and possible modulation of substrate oxidation. Additionally, we also confirmed the prospective anti-obesity effects of elderberry juice powder using a diet-induced obese rodent model [15]. In that 12-week study, rodents fed a 45% fat diet supplemented with 10% elderberry juice powder did not present an obese phenotype compared to the control group [15]. Main findings included a normalized growth curve and body composition and improved fasting blood insulin despite eating significantly more kilocalories and maintaining the same physical activity as control mice. In the gut microbiome, the elderberry intervention increased Bifidobacterium, Akkermansia, and Anaeroplasma relative abundances, suggesting the physical and metabolic improvements are at least partially driven by changes to the microbiome [15].
The objective of this current human study is to determine if the metabolic benefits observed with other anthocyanin-rich berries extend to elderberries. To accomplish this, we performed a short-term controlled feeding study in overweight but healthy adult volunteers in a randomized, placebo-controlled crossover clinical trial. Major study endpoints included blood glucose and insulin response to a high-carbohydrate meal challenge, indirect calorimetry, and profiling of the fecal microbiome.
The findings also corroborate the positive effects of anthocyanin rich berry consumption on blood glucose homeostasis and fat oxidation, where a 24% reduction in the serum glucose area-under-the-curve, and 27% increase in fat oxidation were observed with the EBJ treatment. The findings suggest that anti-obesity effects of EBJ observed in translational research models do extend to humans.
The researchers are so bullish on elderberry anthocyanins, that they applied for a patent.
https://wsu.technologypublisher.com/technology/53952
A cursory search shows that blackberry juice (or powder) is a little less expensive than elderberry juice (or powder).
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We cannot eat ourselves out of obesity.
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I’m curious about this too it doesn’t seem there’s been any definitive studies about this.I’m 71 and have generally been 20 pounds over ideal weight. I do think some is genetic when I look at the big butts of generations past in my mom’s family, and I’m shaped so much like she was, but I have spells where I just don’t have much appetite and I always lose 6 to 10 pounds then and I’ve wondered if slender people have less appetite all the time. And of course, when I do have more of an appetite, obviously I don’t have the discipline to just be hungry. As for those who are grossly overweight, there must be something wrong with how they metabolize food as don’t see how a person can eat so much to get 100 plus pounds over weight and yet I think I’ve heard that metabolism doesn’t have all that much to do with it. When I was 16, I went on a very strict diet and got down to average 115 pounds. At 5’4.5” this was the weight of most my classmates at that height, and yet I stopped having my period so some bodies must need more weight to function properly? The doctor gave me some thyroid to get it going again.
It’s all very complicated. There are genetic factors, there are metabolic factors, there are gut microbiome factors.
Anyone can just eat less and move more, do that hard enough and you will get results. But different people need different levels of this to get results.
Drugs like tirzepatide, retatrutide and semaglutide completely change the game by causing people to just not crave food as much, have more self-control/willpower, improve insulin response, etc.
I’m doing research on an endogenous gut metabolite (indolepropionamide) right now and I’m finding a lot of evidence that when the upstream processes that lead to it being created are disrupted that people have lower inhibitory control leading to higher chances of obesity and other compulsive behaviors.
“The associations between the SCWT and alterations in tryptophan metabolism were replicated in the Imageomics cohort (n=970), where plasma levels of tryptophan and some microbial-derived tryptophan catabolites (indolepropionamide) were positively associated with the SCWT performance”
Crazy part is when they transplanted the gut microbes from someone who was obese to a mouse the mouse had similar inhibitor control problems: “FMT (Faecal microbiota transplantation) from individuals with obesity led to alterations in mice reversal learning.”
I’m 100% confident that we have all the tools necessary to completely cure obesity, and our repertoire of tools is only going to improve as time goes on.
Oh yes I forgot about the fecal transplants - read a story of one lady gaining a lot of weight when given one from an overweight person. I wonder if it applies to energy too - I have chronic fatigue and have wondered about getting one from my nephew who has such superb energy. That’s another issue I wish more was known about - look at Trump - eats fast food, overweight, doesn’t exercise, sleeps 4-5 hours a night and goes all day and seems to feel great. Don’t mean to start anything political but he’s a prime example and it’s no fair! 
Might work.
Rich, unlimited access to cutting edge drugs, treatments and specialists. No one really knows but I’ve heard speculation that high level officials get legal access to powerful nootropic drugs that allow them to work more effectively but it seems to age them badly.
Here’s a brand new one that’s already passed a phase 1 trial and headed to phase 2. It acts like a mitochondrial uncoupler, but uses the creatine cycle to dissipate energy as heat instead of UCP1. Apparently it’s also selective for fat tissue, so it doesn’t cause the potentially massive increase in body temp seen with toxoc uncoupling drugs like DNP:
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Yikes, I’ll wait to see phase 3 on that one, mitochondrial uncouplers can be very dangerous. I would be curious as to what happens when you overdose on it. Overdosing GLP1s is terrible, but they shouldn’t kill you.
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It seems a lot safer than DNP.
“Chronic administration of SANA (400 mg per kg per day) to normal mice for 8 weeks showed no signs of renal or liver toxicity” (note this is very much unlike the uncoupler DNP, which kills mice at higher doses.
They aren’t going to overdose human subjects in the phase 2 or 3 trials and it’s an oral capsule, so dramatic overdosing would need to be intentional rather than accidental.
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Still wise to avoid until more data comes out. GLP1 agonists are already promising enough as it is imo!
Still cool to see new stuff come out.