The Workout Paradox - We Need to Rethink Exercise

Here is what worked for me and has worked for a multitude of people.

Calorie count and stay on a high, low carbohydrates protein diet. The protein feeds muscle growth and kills cravings for carbos. Then exercise vigorously as well, working up to something significant at least four times a week. Not a walk for a half hour but something that puts you in zone 2 for at least a half hour, and strength training for at least an hour. Really working out, not a casual walk. Save those for the days in between the big workout days. As you are working out harder, it keeps your metabolism up. It trick your body into thinking you have a lot of important things to do and keeps your metabolism higher.

The point of the strength training while doing this is to keep up muscle mass. But even if you lose a little, it is not the end of the world. Get down to a better weight and re-assess. Once the fat is off, it is a lot easier to do all things physical.

I get it, our bodies are all different, hormones, etc. But if you are burning 1,000 calories a workout four times a week altogether, and keeping your calorie count at or just replacement level, you are going to lose weight odds on.

I guess I should just ignore this DNA information and accept that I’m a loser, can’t stick to a program, don’t work hard enough, eat too much, don’t eat enough, need to eat keto, vegan, carnivore, mediterranean . And walk, run and sweat more…

Did all that and it didn’t work for me :slight_smile:

Those who beleive all humans are all the same in how they respond to drugs, food, exercise, supplements may be on to something!!

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My recommendation is to get on empagliflozin and drink more caffeine. This should up your TDEE by roughly 400 calories even with no additional exercise.
It clearly works to help me maintain even when I eat buckets of icecream.

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Just to be clear, I am not say that what I am doing must apply to any given person. What I am willing to say is that this course of action was advised to me by many who lost weight, and likely works for most people.

I can say that the idea that your body just magically figures out how to burn the same amount of calories regardless is not something I believe is true for those that consistently engage in vigorous exercise and honestly counts the calories they are eating. Right off, I can say that my muscle mass is far larger than when I started, and that has to raise my calorie usage.

Further, the video basically just points out that a lot of this “balancing out” is just cheating in one form or another. Your body is not some other being to yourself, you have the ability to control your actions. For instance, eating poorly after working out is a choice and often headed off by eating more protein. I do not eat junk as a “reward” because I am counting calories, and do not want to waste my efforts by eating some silly thing or another.

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What works for me is retatrutide :slight_smile:

Best thing since HÄAGEN-DAZ Ice cream :slight_smile:

Sorry, just having fun :slight_smile:

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Do you rely on willpower to count and limit calories? Or do you use willpower to avoid certain foods and eating patterns?

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How long is the list of “potential” issues with our favourite topic/drug on this forum? or the potential for harmful interactions with an amazingly long list of other drugs?

Any yet that doesn’t stop us from our grand experiment.

Many consider GLP1’s to be Nobel worthy due to the near immediate and long term life changing benefits.

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Willpower is deciding to ask for food that you expect to not taste as good, but is better for health.

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Oops, I thought you said “Eat a Chinese for dinner and you will be hungry an hour later. Eat a Samoan and you’ll be stuffed for a week."

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Both. It has changed my eating habits. I pick up something the size of a golf ball and its 400 calories. However amazing it might taste, I think about how hard I have to work to get though that and almost always put it right back. I am not so rigorous now but used to check EVERYTHING.

Cheat days are rare for me for the same reason. The cheater is myself and I am cheating on myself. Depressing.

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Cheat days are rare for me for the same reason. The cheater is myself and I am cheating on myself. Depressing.

You are not alone, weight management is one of the most depressing activities due to the high risk of “failure”, I got tired of being depressed :slight_smile: To deal with weight driven depression people will compartmentalize that and suffer in silence, while embracing the “all bodies” matter marketing we see today. 169 million seem to have embraced this strategy.

Over 70 million adults in U.S. are obese (35 million men and 35 million women). 99 million are overweight (45 million women and 54 million men). NHANES 2016 statistics showed that about 39.6% of American adults were obese.

For many others, they embrace the struggle and do receive the physical and emotional benefits. But it’s not enough.

Never been happier with respect to my weight, fitness and lack of lifestyle driven depression.

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I thought hard about responding because we are not really having a conversation. But your misuse of my words compelled me to respond.

First quote: My point is that cheating on yourself is dishonorable and depressing. It is in fact empowering to have self-integrity. Controlling myself and my health are quite pleasant for me actually.

Most people give up because they do not want to go through the pain of controlling themselves. That is far from a strategy. If you are different in terms of weight loss then I guess you are. But oddly, you just included yourself with 169 million people, which seems like a pretty big generalization to me. .

All bodies matter obviously. And since that is true, a person should endeavor to optimize health and it is an easy way to enhance longevity. Being grossly obese may be unavoidable, but one should do one’s utmost to avoid it. I am certain that a majority of overweight people in the US are not.

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Appreciate the clarification. Did not mean to take your words out of context, only as I understood them.

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It’s not about calories in versus calories out; it is about what your body does with the calories you eat: are they stored as fat or burned for energy.

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You are completely wrong. It is exactly about calories in vs calories out.

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It is a bit nuanced as although it is primarily about the energy balance there is also the ability of the body to increase or reduce energy usage.

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That is correct, it is not only about intake but also out-take. The reason most diets become torture is because your body slows metabolism to match lower intake. My position is that this can be offset considerably by vigorous exercise. It forces the body to raise metabolism and burn calories more than usually would. This is one way to get to calorie deficit. This is not a lot of fun until you get used to it. But after about a month of working out, my experience is that the post-workout high is very desirable.

But what about after the workout? I eat a lot of protein and resist the temptation to eat carbohydrates especially. The protein gives your body the resources to repair and grow after exercise and satiates your hunger. Another trick that works for me is to workout when I would normally be eating lunch. I eat a protein bar during that but that’s it. I find I am not at all hungry while working out.

Now of course I am (as always) talking about what works for ME. But I can say that everything I just told you I learned from others.

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Alright, can you do an experiment and eat 5000 kcal a day for a couple of months and prove your hypothesis?

Thanks.

Updated video:

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