Multivitamin May Slow Memory Loss

Ok, I think I understand. Very different from my approach, each person should of course choose their own.

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I think this might be good:

It has a lot of each vitamins etc, so I wonder if only one per day would be preferable?

This is my concept too. Luckily I like cooking and don’t particularly enjoy fast food except sometimes as a break. Like yesterday, when I had my yearly FIVEGUYS milkshake. My only concern with fast food is that it is usually very caloric and satiety can be a problem. I also enjoy textured food and usually fast food is lacking this. Probably on purpose as texture gives you more chewing sensations and you eat slowly and feel satisfied. McDonalds meal usually just disappears and you are asking yourself where did it go… but this is me.
What kind of food do you like?

Calories are my enemy. I can overeat even on the healtiest food if I am not careful.

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So am I. My problem is that I enjoy eating and usually can’t stop if there is more food (plate, table or kitchen). Last three years I started with being more conscious about calories and hey, they add up quickly. For example above mentioned shake was 375 ml / and about 1000 kcal. Crazy.

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I don’t know. I like healthy food too.
If I am focusing on maximizing wellbeing I suppose I will eat healthy as well many times.

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https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/1028415X.2017.1312841

Full adherance is not realistic however and why also a multivitamin is probably a good idea.

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I’m genuinely shocked that people on here are uninterested in diet as a causative factor of acm/longevity. It has just always seemed so obvious to me that varying the content of a kg+ of food that you put in you every day must have a huge impact.

I can understand that the science can be messy, but the signals have been markedly more consistent over the last 15 years compared to before. And if you focus on adding foods, rather than restricting compliance is much easier. The dea that we need an rct on everything seems a little asinine given the obvious reasons why they’re hard to do and fund. Cohort studies plus small rcts seem good enough reason to eat a home cooked filet steak with green beans instead of a McDonald’s!

“Fourth, combining a healthy diet with other lifestyle factors could extend disease-free life expectancies by 8–10 years”

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/joim.13728#:~:text=Because%20large%20randomized%20clinical%20trials,from%20animal%20studies—can%20substantially

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It’s absolutely whack but to each their own. Somehow this is not a forum that tempts me to get into axe grinding fights. I just take what’s good and interesting and ignore idiocy.

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The Dr. Brad Stanfield one is pretty good, albeit a little pricey (it includes hyaluronic acid and TMG in it).

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If you take 2.5 capsules on average it is about the same price as 1/Day of Thorne Basic Nutrients per month. I don’t like that there is choline in it, although at 2.5 capsules a day it is very small.

Great summary of various diets and their effect on longevity.
Diet strategies for promoting healthy aging and longevity: An epidemiological perspective

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Why does Trump take this?

On October 17, 2012, researchers reported on a double-blind study of 14,641 male U.S. physicians initially aged 50 years or older (mean age of 64.3, standard deviation 9.2 years), that began in 1997 with treatment and follow-up through June 1, 2011. They compared total cancer (excluding nonmelanoma skin cancer) for participants taking a daily multivitamin (Centrum Silver by Pfizer) versus placebo. Compared with placebo, men taking a daily multivitamin had a statistically significant reduction in the incidence of total cancer, with a hazard ratio (HR) = 0.92 (95% confidence interval (CI) 0.86-0.998; P = .04).

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I am literally so confused, the original post trial was using Centrum Silver too?

All studies used a commonly available multivitamin — Centrum Silver for Adults (age 50+). But, though they haven’t been studied, “any high-quality multivitamin is likely to provide similar benefits,” Manson said.

Is there any good reason to use any other multivitamin?

What does Zelensky take?
Ukrainian President Zelensky takes One A Day Multivitamin from Bayer:

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Pictured below:


Receiving updates from Commander-in-Chief Oleksandr Syrskyi on the frontline situation and operations in the Kursk region, with the multivitamin bottle behind the Cisco Webex monitor.

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One a day keeps the Russians away (Putin and team). Everyone should add it to their protocol :wink:

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#NotAllRussians! Just a couple hundred thousand plus a few tens of millions of supporters.

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Multivitamins seem to not work for longevity or other health outcomes except in low income regions/countries.

The newer data mostly just confirms something we already knew. Multivitamins don’t make you live longer. They don’t improve key health outcomes like heart disease and cancer, or reduce your risk of hospitalization. There’s no strong data showing that they are dangerous — the newest study isn’t convincing on that point — but there’s a huge body of data showing that multivitamins don’t do the things that we’d really want them to do.

It’s worth noting that this is in a specific context — rich people in high/middle-income countries with adequate nutrition. In low-income countries, and in very low-income regions of richer countries, multivitamins can be lifesaving. You don’t want to catch a nasty infectious disease when you’re severely deficient in half a dozen key nutrients.

But for your average person in Europe, the United States, South America, China, etc, there’s no reason to take a multivitamin. We have decades of robust clinical data showing that they won’t improve your health much, if at all.

https://archive.is/blPKk

So they might be a waste of money that could be spent on statins, rapamycin, or other longevity drugs.

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Multivitamins vary quite a lot. There are reasonable arguments to cycle Vitamin C (for example) and that is in many multivitamins.

I personally take Solgars VM2000 on Mondays and Thursdays. It is worth taking something to ensure there is a baseline of certain minerals, but that is easy to overdo as well.

People assume supplements and vitamins are easy in terms of dosing and timing, but I don’t agree.

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These study results suggest that they don’t do anything.

If the average person in a Western country has no improvement in outcomes, why do you think you would?

Not all multivitamins are the same.

My personal experient of vitamins and supplements is that they have an effect, but it is also possible to overdose. Some more easily than others. I have tracked the effects (and the effects of overdose).

B6 is perhaps the easiest vitamin to overdose.