If one factors out economic / wealth conditions are there any other patterns we can learn from?
Money and sunlight buy you years, all things being equal.
It’s amazing that the wealthier more educated demographic in the USA doesn’t fare so well against the same demographic in other first world countries when it comes to life expectancy. It seems that somehow the demographic shift in the USA didn’t include a cleaner safer environment with less adulterated food sources. An example would be south eastern Pennsylvania that has some of the worst air in the country. Yet, is very affluent. On the nutrition side of it, there is virtually no policing of sketchy food additives. In the USA the supposedly intelligent class is breathing the same raunchy air and eating the same raunchy food.
Is that the case though? Seems like more sunlight in the southern states in red bars vs the green bars with at least NY, MA, if not also D.C.
It appears we should be trying to move to Monaco 
Source: https://www.visualcapitalist.com/mapped-life-expectancy-by-country-in-2025/
The infographic above seems to be inaccurate as China has a life expectancy that is currently higher than the USA and rising faster than the USA.
Can’t comment on the pace, but the many authorities cited here indicate that the US’ life expectancy is still higher than China’s.
Key Takeaways
- U.S. life expectancy at birth for men is about 74, versus 79 for women.
- However as Americans age, their potential lifespan increases as well.
- At 75, an American man can expect to live to 86, which is 12 years longer than the life expectancy at birth.
Source: https://www.visualcapitalist.com/charted-how-much-time-americans-have-left-to-live-by-age/
I’m sorry RapAdmin, but that article on American kids is a bunch of BS. Those kids are way smarter than any of us, and in better health (at least prospectively). We - most on this board - are early termers. We picked the wrong birth years, were overly anxious and had a lack of self control, we couldn’t delay gratification and were born early. Now look at our bodies. I bet you’d swap yours for any of those kids bodies. They were much smarter, had nerves of steel, knew to wait, and had self control, they picked birth years which allow for much greater medical progress and even lifespan breakthroughs. We popped way too early. Look at the state of medical science. Many of us looked at the state of technology - ooh, computers, biotech, AI, self driving cars, human genome project DNA mapped out - time to come out and enjoy life! Not so fast. Of course, our grandfathers were even worse - they saw the birth of flight, airplanes, submarines, antibiotics, atomic power, and thought “now is the time! I’m coming out!”. Look what that got them - an early death. But these kids? They knew to wait. They were looking ahead and saw that genetic engineering is where it’s at and saw CRISPR, global warming still sublethal, some enviroment still left unpolluted - “OK, NOW is the time! Sure, we are fat, but there are all these drugs to make us thin, soon medical science will be advanced enough so we can eat our cake (literally) and have it too!”. Much smarter than any of us, and thanks to medical science will be much healthier too in the long run.
I for one very much doubt I had a say for when I would be born but if you have a way to prove to me otherwise, I’m all ears LOL.
Haha, get your frustration with thinking we are a bit too early, but I think otherwise. The next ten years (in which time we all on these boards will be alive) there will breakthroughs in health and longevity in a scale unimaginable today. No worries, bud you’re late enough to reap some of the benefits.
I hope you are kidding or a little tipsy maybe 
but definitely not serious 
So they are a little (a LITTLE?) fat, but there’s a pill. Nice thought. What pill? Ozempic? Have you seen anybody healthy who’s on Ozempic? I have not. And there’s a really big problem with kids being overweight in the U.S. I know what my granddaughter is fed for lunch at school. And it’s terrifying.
this thread is a giant mess now, but
Yeah but “socialist” medicine doesn’t compare to the greatest health care system in the world…
I used 2 stats, the Alpha and Omega of health care when I was in the med device business (13 years) and had attended over 200 health care facilities in the US, when I’d get asked how our “socialist” system worked. First I’d have to explain the concept of universal health care and that is is not “socialist” any more than the police dept or fire dept or the military is socialist.
Alpha - Infant Mortality Rate
Omega - Life Expectancy
All one has to do is look at either one of those 2 stats, the cost to achieve the “ranking” and it becomes pretty obvious which system better serves the majority of the population.
While the US is often on the bleeding edge of medical science and does have some of the very best healthcare in the world, it’s the unnecessary administrative costs driven by a for profit system that are hindering a population wide benefit.
If one were to expect the police, the fire dept and the military to turn a profit, to charge people for every service they provide and refuse to “help” unless paid their fee, there would be chaos.
So how does a process of equitable healthcare for all not meet the same standard as the police, fire and military?
How? too many lobbyists, helping companies maximize profits for shareholders and the “management/insurance” companies that are sucking every dime they can get out of the US system.
And I have employed a lobbyist in the US health care industry and he did help us make more money, it’s a great system to get rich in 
An international team of researchers has investigated how these Blue Zone lifestyle principles apply in four Western Finland regions—Swedish-speaking Ostrobothnia, Finnish-speaking Ostrobothnia, Swedish-speaking Åland, and Finnish-speaking South Ostrobothnia. The new research highlights a potential new Blue Zone but also more broadly reveals that longevity in Nordic regions isn’t necessarily associated with the Blue Zone lifestyle.
“The potential coherence between longevity, health and lifestyle may vary in different cultural, political, social and economic contexts,” the researchers wrote in a study published last month in the Journal of Aging Research. “The present study aims to examine if adherence to Blue Zone lifestyle principles and good health is highest in the most longevous region.”
Open Access Research Paper:
Searching for a Potential Blue Zone in the Nordics: A Study on Differences in Lifestyle and Health in Regions Varying in Longevity in Western Finland
To delay social and healthcare utilisation among the ageing population, there is an increasing focus on the role of health-promoting lifestyle adopted at an individual and/or community level. Longevity is generally viewed as the ultimate outcome of health, although a high life expectancy does not necessarily go together with health and/or a health-promoting lifestyle. The potential coherence between longevity, health and lifestyle may vary in different cultural, political, social and economic contexts. This Nordic regional study situated in regions differing in longevity aims to (i) explore differences in adherence to the comprehensive, health-promoting Blue Zone lifestyle principles in four regions in Western Finland (bilingual Ostrobothnia, Swedish-speaking Åland and Finnish-speaking South Ostrobothnia) and (ii) investigate regional differences in health. Thus, the present study aims to examine if adherence to Blue Zone lifestyle principles and good health is highest in the most longevous region. Survey data from the Gerontological Regional Database in 2021–2022 were used. Marginal means were calculated using ANOVA. The results showed that Åland, Finland’s most longevous region, showed the best health and higher environmental agreeableness, while deviated from several Blue Zone lifestyle principles. Swedish-speaking Ostrobothnia showed good health and adherence to the Blue Zone lifestyle. South Ostrobothnia showed the poorest health but as much adherence to the Blue Zone lifestyle as Swedish-speaking Ostrobothnia. Finnish-speaking Ostrobothnia deviated the most from the Blue Zone lifestyle. The findings imply that Nordic longevous regions do not necessarily adhere to the Blue Zone lifestyle. Future research incorporating individual, community and societal factors could further elucidate whether and how longevity, lifestyle and health are interconnected in different ethnolinguistic contexts to further advance the understanding of healthy ageing and improve the implementation of effective health-promoting initiatives.
Summary
- Lifestyle principles important for longevity might vary in different regions.
- Åland showed the highest longevity and best health but deviated from Blue Zone lifestyle principles with the exception of environmental agreeableness.
- Swedish-speaking Ostrobothnia showed preliminary tendencies to be a longevous Blue Zone in terms of high levels of longevity, health and adherence to the Blue Zone lifestyle principles.
- Future research aiming to identify a longevous Blue Zone in Western Finland could further differentiate between the Swedish-speaking and Finnish-speaking population in Ostrobothnia in analyses of longevity.
What’s interesting about this “Bluezone” is that people there are genetically and culturally a bit different from each other and from their neighbors. Also economically diverse: Åland is the wealthiest region in Finland. Ostrobothnia is average. South Ostrobothnia is poor. So it is more likely to be true?
I always heard it was the huge consumption of onions in those northern regions that added health and to life extension.
My Czech family has had onions as an ingredient in almost everything - eggs, soups, on meats, in salads, with any cooked vegetables - beans, carrots, potatoes.
Incorporating onions into your diet offers various health benefits, including improved heart health, reduced inflammation, better digestive and immune function, and potential cancer prevention. Onions are rich in antioxidants like [quercetin]and contain prebiotic fiber, which supports healthy gut bacteria and nutrient absorption. They also contain compounds like sulfur and saponins that help regulate blood sugar, lower bad cholesterol, and strengthen bones.