I for one very much doubt I had a say for when I would be born but if you have a way to prove to me otherwise, I’m all ears LOL.
Haha, get your frustration with thinking we are a bit too early, but I think otherwise. The next ten years (in which time we all on these boards will be alive) there will breakthroughs in health and longevity in a scale unimaginable today. No worries, bud you’re late enough to reap some of the benefits.
I hope you are kidding or a little tipsy maybe 
but definitely not serious 
So they are a little (a LITTLE?) fat, but there’s a pill. Nice thought. What pill? Ozempic? Have you seen anybody healthy who’s on Ozempic? I have not. And there’s a really big problem with kids being overweight in the U.S. I know what my granddaughter is fed for lunch at school. And it’s terrifying.
this thread is a giant mess now, but
Yeah but “socialist” medicine doesn’t compare to the greatest health care system in the world…
I used 2 stats, the Alpha and Omega of health care when I was in the med device business (13 years) and had attended over 200 health care facilities in the US, when I’d get asked how our “socialist” system worked. First I’d have to explain the concept of universal health care and that is is not “socialist” any more than the police dept or fire dept or the military is socialist.
Alpha - Infant Mortality Rate
Omega - Life Expectancy
All one has to do is look at either one of those 2 stats, the cost to achieve the “ranking” and it becomes pretty obvious which system better serves the majority of the population.
While the US is often on the bleeding edge of medical science and does have some of the very best healthcare in the world, it’s the unnecessary administrative costs driven by a for profit system that are hindering a population wide benefit.
If one were to expect the police, the fire dept and the military to turn a profit, to charge people for every service they provide and refuse to “help” unless paid their fee, there would be chaos.
So how does a process of equitable healthcare for all not meet the same standard as the police, fire and military?
How? too many lobbyists, helping companies maximize profits for shareholders and the “management/insurance” companies that are sucking every dime they can get out of the US system.
And I have employed a lobbyist in the US health care industry and he did help us make more money, it’s a great system to get rich in 
An international team of researchers has investigated how these Blue Zone lifestyle principles apply in four Western Finland regions—Swedish-speaking Ostrobothnia, Finnish-speaking Ostrobothnia, Swedish-speaking Åland, and Finnish-speaking South Ostrobothnia. The new research highlights a potential new Blue Zone but also more broadly reveals that longevity in Nordic regions isn’t necessarily associated with the Blue Zone lifestyle.
“The potential coherence between longevity, health and lifestyle may vary in different cultural, political, social and economic contexts,” the researchers wrote in a study published last month in the Journal of Aging Research. “The present study aims to examine if adherence to Blue Zone lifestyle principles and good health is highest in the most longevous region.”
To delay social and healthcare utilisation among the ageing population, there is an increasing focus on the role of health-promoting lifestyle adopted at an individual and/or community level. Longevity is generally viewed as the ultimate outcome of health, although a high life expectancy does not necessarily go together with health and/or a health-promoting lifestyle. The potential coherence between longevity, health and lifestyle may vary in different cultural, political, social and economic contexts. This Nordic regional study situated in regions differing in longevity aims to (i) explore differences in adherence to the comprehensive, health-promoting Blue Zone lifestyle principles in four regions in Western Finland (bilingual Ostrobothnia, Swedish-speaking Åland and Finnish-speaking South Ostrobothnia) and (ii) investigate regional differences in health. Thus, the present study aims to examine if adherence to Blue Zone lifestyle principles and good health is highest in the most longevous region. Survey data from the Gerontological Regional Database in 2021–2022 were used. Marginal means were calculated using ANOVA. The results showed that Åland, Finland’s most longevous region, showed the best health and higher environmental agreeableness, while deviated from several Blue Zone lifestyle principles. Swedish-speaking Ostrobothnia showed good health and adherence to the Blue Zone lifestyle. South Ostrobothnia showed the poorest health but as much adherence to the Blue Zone lifestyle as Swedish-speaking Ostrobothnia. Finnish-speaking Ostrobothnia deviated the most from the Blue Zone lifestyle. The findings imply that Nordic longevous regions do not necessarily adhere to the Blue Zone lifestyle. Future research incorporating individual, community and societal factors could further elucidate whether and how longevity, lifestyle and health are interconnected in different ethnolinguistic contexts to further advance the understanding of healthy ageing and improve the implementation of effective health-promoting initiatives.
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What’s interesting about this “Bluezone” is that people there are genetically and culturally a bit different from each other and from their neighbors. Also economically diverse: Åland is the wealthiest region in Finland. Ostrobothnia is average. South Ostrobothnia is poor. So it is more likely to be true?
I always heard it was the huge consumption of onions in those northern regions that added health and to life extension.
My Czech family has had onions as an ingredient in almost everything - eggs, soups, on meats, in salads, with any cooked vegetables - beans, carrots, potatoes.
Incorporating onions into your diet offers various health benefits, including improved heart health, reduced inflammation, better digestive and immune function, and potential cancer prevention. Onions are rich in antioxidants like [quercetin]and contain prebiotic fiber, which supports healthy gut bacteria and nutrient absorption. They also contain compounds like sulfur and saponins that help regulate blood sugar, lower bad cholesterol, and strengthen bones.
Time to edit the title of this thread. Misinformation.
Good news, if true. I saw this post on X, but couldn’t find the original source of the data / graph. If anyone knows the original source that would be great.
Given that a large number of people died due to covid wouldn’t we expect to see a Lower death rate (and therefore greater life expectancy) for a few years afterwards… I’m not sure exactly how the different groups calculate life expectancy…
From this X thread: https://x.com/mattyglesias/status/1963801864090128503
and an interesting longer term look at the trend:
The 7.2% private insurance rate for Switzerland seems wrong : All health insurance in Switzerland is private, but there is a mandate to purchase Basic Healthcare insurance and insurance companies must charge everyone age 26 or older the same rate (so older Swiss are being subsidized by younger Swiss), though poor people get a Government subsidy to buy insurance. Also there are choices of different levels of annual deductible which change the premium rate. There are also optional supplement policies to cover deductibles, copays and healthcare not covered by the standardized Basic Healthcare Plan. Insurance companies are limited in the amount of profit on their basic plans but there is no limit on how much they can charge for supplement policies. Perhaps they only count the optional supplement policies under the 7.2% private insurance ? Healthcare in Switzerland
It’s OECD data so highly unlikely to be wrong. And yet you’re right. The 2019 OECD data, shows Switzerland at 47.7% (higher than the US): https://www.oecd.org/content/dam/oecd/en/publications/reports/2022/03/private-health-insurance-spending_936ad24d/4985356e-en.pdf
What is really shocking is how much medical care is NOT covered by insurance, even in countries with mandatory private insurance like Switzerland : Perhaps people are selecting the highest possible deductible to reduce the cost of insurance AND not buying the optional supplement policy.
As millennials enter middle age, their mortality rates remain elevated. Things are looking better for the younger generation.
but…
Full story: Gen Z Is Bucking a Terrible Mortality Trend (Bloomberg)
What’s the rationale for the increased mortality rate in young N. Americans? Opioids? Guns? Not getting vaccinated?
Canada is also negatively impacted so probably not guns. Is there an opioid crisis in Canada as well?
It appears to be suicide as that’s the one trending upwards. That really sucks. Based on the root causes, under or unemployment and weak social ties, I think this problem may persist and get worse. Poor kids.
The main causes of death for 25- to 34-year-olds in North America are unintentional injuries (including drug overdoses and motor vehicle accidents), suicide, and homicide. While heart disease and cancer become more prevalent, injuries, violence, and poisoning are the primary mortality factors in this age group.
This is obviously a sign of accelerated aging. I think it is possible because of the multigenerational nature of the mtDNA germline that reductions in the fertilisation average volgate of ΔΨm are behind this. If that is the case then action is needed for younger people within the context of maintaining ΔΨm as after 50 will be late. (not necessarily too late).
