Looking at an european cryonics organization, Tomorrow Bio: https://www.tomorrow.bio/, the costs can be around $50 a month for some, with an insurance policy. Meaning, you can fund it with life insurance. So the compounded difference doesn’t have to be that great.
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Business Insider: Peter Thiel says he’ll be frozen after death, but doubts it works.
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This piece on the topic of human biostasis, by several professors, is a short and interesting summary relevant to several things discussed above
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What else are you going to do with your billions after you die? You might as well try a moonshot. I completely see his point of view. In the end, his fees may advance the science… Maybe…
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Some good news for transplant patients:
In all, five rats received a vitrified-then-thawed kidney in a study whose results were published this month in Nature Communications. It’s the first time scientists have shown it’s possible to successfully and repeatedly transplant a life-sustaining mammalian organ after it has been rewarmed from this icy metabolic arrest. Outside experts unequivocally called the results a seminal milestone for the field of organ preservation.
“It’s historic,” said Mehmet Toner, a biomedical engineer at Massachusetts General Hospital and a Harvard Medical School professor working in organ cryopreservation. “This is the beginning of a very exciting journey.”
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A good presentation I saw when I attended the Longevit Summit last December - now online and viewable by all.
Fauna Bio is trying to learn from hybernating animals how we can better recover from heart attacks, etc.:
Dr. Ashley Zehnder- “Extraordinary genomics for human health”
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I will look at this. Hibernation is interesting because
a) It involves reduced acetylation of the histone and hence is a good study of macro changes to the histone.
b) Metabolic Syndrome is similar to hibernation and perhaps a human response to stimulation that in other creatures would result in hibernation.
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Scientists are learning how to cryopreserve living tissues, organs, and even whole organisms, then bring them back to life.
Cover of Science
https://twitter.com/ScienceMagazine/status/1674479121340964871?s=20
https://www.science.org/content/article/how-to-deep-freeze-entire-organ-bring-it-back-to-life
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unfortunately i already paid alcor before i knew there were other much better deals so i now have to put up with them and also pay dues every year. now i think they are kicking me out and not returning my money it seems
no they are not good. i already paid them $80,000 for brain and dues and am having problems with them. some ridiculous requests etc. etc. they also keep raising the annual dues also
john hemming . name sounds famitiar. i thought u were a high ranking board member of Alcor or maybe it’s one who has same name
Not alcor. My background is in tech, politics and music.
Fascinating
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@Larry Johnson You made some good points and i am curious as to did u get your money back from Alcor? because i already paid and may want to try and get mine back from them and change to a different company or whatever though i am not positively sure as yet that i want to do that but seems more likely the longer i think about it similar to your posted items and more of my own. Your reasons now gives me even more to question about it.
that is the point. True one can say that it has even a 1 out of billion chance of working or even smaller. But no matter how small it is as long as it is not 0 and not an overwhelmingly large expense for one eg you can afford it then may be ok for the argument could go for example like the following. Would you pay $100 for 1/10 chance of winning 10 million+1000 dollars. I think most would say yes since it is a million to one in your favor. Eg roughly speaking your expected return is 10million/10=1 million dollars. So now u keep going like that and would u spend 100k(say roughly the amount Alcor charges for brain preservation) for a 1 out of a billion chance of u being successfully revived at some time in future. What is it worth to u ? One could say ok if instead u had a 1 out of a billion chance of receiving 10billion times $100k as it would then be about 10 to 1 in your favor as your expected return would be about 10 times $100k= a million dollars except you get to the point that money only has some maximum value no matter how much. So u now go into what is worth more than money . i think you now get the idea. How much is future everlasting very much more favorable than now life(or whatever u call it by that time) worth to you. And that would likely be essentially infinity times any amount of money or whatever. So as long as the chance is above zero regardless if it is even smaller like 1 out of a trillion or smaller it is worth it to you as long as that chance is not 0. That is assuming one can afford the $100k. Ofcourse there are many arguments against it. But if you reach a certain age you better choose some possible eternal option because you are likely to die before u have time to think about it anymore.
Nature beat us to the punch.
“Two wonderful cases of human hibernation by yogis”
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