White beans and red beans are available plenty at affordable prices in our area. How to use for spineless glucose levels any idea?
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I will give the stack a try. Which brand of grape seed extract did you use? Thanks for posting!
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Iām sure there is some level of bean consumption that would inhibit amylases as well as the extract products, but youād also have to consider the increased your carbohydrate consumption. Overall, Iām guessing it would be a net positive, since bean consumption is associated with many healthy outcomes in big observational studies. Still, if the goal is to inhibit amylases, something like cinnamon might be more practical.
I used the Nutricost brand. 400mg pills. 95% proanthocyanidin.
Iāve found out on pubmed that most of the studies on grape seed extract were using Leucoselect Phytosome from Indena.
So I looked for supplements based on it and found and ordered that one:
Super NutritionĀ® Grape Seed Extract PhytosomeĀ® contains a patented Grape Seed Extract Phospholipid Maxtrix, LeucoselectĀ® that has been shown to support cardiovascular health and antioxidant function.
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Interesting. That one is a liposomal formulation, meaning the extract is encased in a lipid shell. This will increase absorption in the gut (proanthocyanidins are poorly absorbed), which could make it more effective for thing like arterial health. It could also shield it from interacting with glucosidases and amylases in the gut, actually making it less effective for blunting glucose spikes.
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I tried this tonight instead of my usual 50-100 mg acarbose. I am very impressed. Worked as well or better than acarbose. I even had some cake bc it was wifeās birthday, and just had a gentle rise and fall in glucose levels. Thanks so much for coming up with this combination and sharing!
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I tried the cinnamon, grapeseed, and white bean several times each and at different doses. For others like EGCG and salacia, I only tried them once and wasnāt inspired to do so again.
More replicates would definitely be helpful for several of these.
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Thanks so much for sharing your results! Glad to hear it is working for you as well!
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Has anyone tested Amla and Gymnema Sylvestre? Both purportedly help control glucose. Also there is a tea called Jinlida that comes in the form of crystals. I have some but cannot stand the taste of it.
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Until last week, I had been taking Amla for several years in the hope it could help with cholesterol levels.
I did not take it near mealtime, so perhaps my experience is of no use. My spikes were always severe until I started acarbose and dapagliflozin a few months ago. So, if it was helping, it was nothing dramatic.
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Hi, thankyou so much, great information. I agree with the multiple substance approach, as each one can have varying effects on different individuals. This study (Frontiers | Acute Effects of Cinnamon Spice on Post-prandial Glucose and Insulin in Normal Weight and Overweight/Obese Subjects: A Pilot Study) shows that cinnamon can have a different effect on the glucose response and glucagon levels on healthy and obese individuals. Also, they speculate that the type of foods eaten makes a big difference on cinnamonās effects. Further, they mention that cinnamon may protect the pancrease by sparing it some work āThe acute effect of cinnamon on reducing 30 min post-prandial insulin and insulin niAUC may spares the pancreatic beta-cell and therefore might slow the progression of pre-diabetes to type 2 diabetesā
As a note, walking after a meal is known to control the post-meal glucose response (Image below). (https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/14/5/1080)
BTW, did you use cinammon sticks immeresed in hot water, or use ground cinnamon?
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Good point on the potential for a combo to work better across diverse individuals.
I used ground cinnamon in gelatin capsules.